Geometric optics: Thin lense equation

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a thin lens equation in the context of geometric optics, specifically focusing on the formation of images by a converging lens. The original poster is tasked with determining the possible positions of a lens to create a focused image of a candle flame on a wall, along with the characteristics of the resulting images.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the thin lens equation but expresses uncertainty about their approach, particularly regarding a derived equation that seems incorrect. Some participants question the validity of the equation used and suggest checking the derivation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the original poster's reasoning and identifying potential errors in their mathematical approach. There is a focus on clarifying the steps taken to derive the equations used, indicating a collaborative effort to understand the problem better.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster's equation has dimensional inconsistencies, prompting a review of the assumptions and derivations made in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


A 2.0-cm-tall candle flame is 2.0 m from a wall. You happen to have a lens with a focal length of 32 cm. How many places can you put the lens to form a well-focused image of the candle flame on the wall? For each location, what are the height and orientation of the image?

Homework Equations


## \frac {1} {f} = \frac {1} {s'} + \frac {1} {s} ## Where s' is image distance, s is object distance, and f is focal length of the lens. The lens is converging because its focal length is positive.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I just have a hard time approach in the question. I came up with a quadratic formula but still got wrong answer. Apologize for not writing this in Latex I am in quite a rush.

s'+s=2
s's=2/f=2/0.32=6.25

The answer key provided is s′=160 cm, h′=0.50 cm; s′=40 cm, h′=8.0 cm

Thank you so much!
 
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Beth N said:
s's=2/f
This equation is incorrect. Check your derivation of it. (Note that the left side of your equation has units of m2 while the right side is dimensionless since you have 2m divided by the focal length in meters.)
 
TSny said:
This equation is incorrect. Check your derivation of it. (Note that the left side of your equation has units of m2 while the right side is dimensionless since you have 2m divided by the focal length in meters.)

Is this the correct approach though? I'm not sure what other equation to use
 
Yes, your approach is correct. Can you write out the steps that led you to s's=2/f? Then we can identify the specific mistake that you must have made.
 

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