Good Textbook for Nuclear science?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks in nuclear science and engineering, particularly for someone with a background in calculus and general physics. Participants explore various texts suitable for different levels of study, from introductory to more advanced materials, while addressing the prerequisites needed for understanding nuclear physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about their preparedness to study nuclear physics given their current knowledge in calculus and physics.
  • Another participant notes that nuclear physics is typically studied at the graduate level, suggesting a need for several more years of study.
  • Several participants recommend specific textbooks, including Lamarsh for basics and Krane's "Introductory Nuclear Physics" as a classic reference.
  • Some participants mention that quantum mechanics is essential for studying nuclear science, with varying opinions on how much is necessary for nuclear engineering.
  • Glasstone & Sesonske's "Nuclear Reactor Engineering" is suggested as a more digestible option for beginners, particularly for practical applications.
  • There is discussion about the differences between nuclear reactor physics and nuclear and particle physics, with some participants emphasizing the need for a physics degree for more advanced texts.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of transport theory compared to diffusion theory in nuclear engineering texts.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the adequacy of diffusion theory for explaining nuclear devices and their construction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational knowledge in physics and mathematics for studying nuclear science. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the best textbooks and the necessary background in quantum mechanics for nuclear engineering. The discussion remains unresolved on the adequacy of diffusion theory for practical applications in nuclear engineering.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that older texts may not cover all modern applications or theories in nuclear science, and there is mention of the limitations of certain textbooks in addressing practical aspects of nuclear reactor design.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in pursuing nuclear science or engineering, particularly those seeking textbook recommendations and insights into the prerequisites for studying the field.

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I am close to finishing learning calculus on my own, I am reading quick calculus
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471827223/?tag=pfamazon01-20
And I finished reading Merrill Physics and Principles(really liked the book) although I am still taking general physics class in HS.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0028267214/?tag=pfamazon01-20
I am a little behind on chemistry so I will read this textbook and I am still taking General Chemsitry
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471121207/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Do I meet the requirements to understand the type of content in a nuclear physics textbook? PLEASE ;____; give me some suggestions for good nuclear science books, in particular I am looking for one that is good like the merrill physics book which includes many problems, science explanations and applications to science explained.
 
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Nuclear physics is studied at the graduate level, although sometimes it is introduced at the advanced undergraduate level. So you have 3-4 more years of study to go.
 
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Krane Introductory Nuclear Physics is the "classic" introductory book for nuclear physics. It's a little old fashioned these days, but it's still what I turn to if I need to look up any basics, and what I recommend. It's also readily available. Nuclear Physics: Principles and Applications by Lilley is less old fashioned, cheaper and a bit of an easier read than Krane. I don't like it as much, but it's pretty good.

If you want a little particle physics as well, there is Martin Nuclear and Particle Physics: An Introduction, which is also pretty ok. Introduction to Nuclear and Particle Physics by Das and Ferbel is also good.

These are all nuclear physics texts, of course, unlike QuantumPion's suggestion, which is nuclear engineering.

ETA: You do absolutely require some quantum mechanics though to study nuclear science. After all, nuclear physics is the ultimate example of a finite quantum system.
 
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e.bar.goum said:
Krane Introductory Nuclear Physics is the "classic" introductory book for nuclear physics. It's a little old fashioned these days, but it's still what I turn to if I need to look up any basics, and what I recommend. It's also readily available. Nuclear Physics: Principles and Applications by Lilley is less old fashioned, cheaper and a bit of an easier read than Krane. I don't like it as much, but it's pretty good.

If you want a little particle physics as well, there is Martin Nuclear and Particle Physics: An Introduction, which is also pretty ok. Introduction to Nuclear and Particle Physics by Das and Ferbel is also good.

These are all nuclear physics texts, of course, unlike QuantumPion's suggestion, which is nuclear engineering.

ETA: You do absolutely require some quantum mechanics though to study nuclear science. After all, nuclear physics is the ultimate example of a finite quantum system.
Hi friend, how much quantum mechanics is necessary for nuclear engineering? Do you know of any good books that will fulfill the requirements for quantum mechanics in nuclear engineering? I have heard of Max Born's book on atomic physics, would it be sufficient?
 
lonely_nucleus said:
Hi friend, how much quantum mechanics is necessary for nuclear engineering? Do you know of any good books that will fulfill the requirements for quantum mechanics in nuclear engineering? I have heard of Max Born's book on atomic physics, would it be sufficient?

For undergrad level nuclear engineering and practical applications, quantum mechanics does not come into play at all.
 
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For undergrad level nuclear engineering and practical applications, quantum mechanics does not come into play at all.
cool beans friend, thank you very much for all of your outstanding replies.
 
I found Glasstone & Sessonske's "Nuclear Reactor Engineering" easier to digest than Lamarsch.

A beginner might prefer the older edition(early 1960's) with a Yankee plant on front cover (spherical containment). It leans toward the practical , especially the chapter on instrumentation which is notably missing in later editions.

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there's one on ebay now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/141622200893?lpid=82&chn=ps
 
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The answer depends on what aspect of nuclear science or engineering in which one is interested. There are numerous texts on introductory nuclear physics, which either incorporate some basic material on special relativity and quantum physics/mechanics, which are appropriate for undergraduates, or slightly more advanced texts for graduates, which assume one has a physics degree.

Nuclear reactor physics or nuclear reactor engineering is quite different from nuclear and particle physics, although there are common elements. I agree with e.bar.goum his recommendations.

I have a number of Glasstone books, including Glasstone & Sesonske, and Bell and Glasstone. Books that involve transport theory are much more complicated than those that do not. Many older texts in nuclear engineering limit themselves to diffusion theory, which is easier to master.
 
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Astronuc said:
The answer depends on what aspect of nuclear science or engineering in which one is interested. There are numerous texts on introductory nuclear physics, which either incorporate some basic material on special relativity and quantum physics/mechanics, which are appropriate for undergraduates, or slightly more advanced texts for graduates, which assume one has a physics degree.

Nuclear reactor physics or nuclear reactor engineering is quite different from nuclear and particle physics, although there are common elements. I agree with e.bar.goum his recommendations.

I have a number of Glasstone books, including Glasstone & Sesonske, and Bell and Glasstone. Books that involve transport theory are much more complicated than those that do not. Many older texts in nuclear engineering limit themselves to diffusion theory, which is easier to master.
Would glasstone be the better option for nuclear engineering? Will diffusion theory do a good job explaining how nuclear devices work and how to build them? I have little expeirence in nuclear engineering, I think I
should read glasstone's books first and then go on to read more complicated texts like https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201824981/?tag=pfamazon01-20
wil books that include transport theory still include diffusion theory?
 
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The Glasstone books are old - 1950-1970. Bell and Glasstone (1970) addresses transport theory. Lamarsh may be a better book; chapter 4 discusses nuclear reactors and nuclear fuel.

lonely_nucleus said:
Will diffusion theory do a good job explaining how nuclear devices work and how to build them?
What does one mean by devices?

The heart of a nuclear reactor is the nuclear fuel. Books like Lamarsh deal more with theory than application. Examples of fuel management are generally limited to first cores. Fuel element design and core design are not addressed in detail, except in specialized courses or on the job.

If one is interested in nuclear engineering, it would be best to obtain a university degree in nuclear engineering where one learns about the nuclear science and engineering aspects of nuclear energy/systems.

Nuclear Reactor Design (a relatively modern book)
http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-4-431-54898-0

http://www.springer.com/us/book/9784431548973 (see download sample pages - some good references there)
 
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lonely_nucleus said:
Would glasstone be the better option for nuclear engineering? Will diffusion theory do a good job explaining how nuclear devices work and how to build them? I have little expeirence in nuclear engineering, I think I
should read glasstone's books first and then go on to read more complicated texts like https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201824981/?tag=pfamazon01-20
wil books that include transport theory still include diffusion theory?

I don't know that Lamarsh is "more complicated" than "Glasstone." They are both introductory texts. Lamarsh is the standard introductory textbook for nuclear engineers.

Neutron transport is only part of the design/operation of a nuclear reactor. DIffusion theory is an approximation of kinetic transport. Its very useful in understand neutron transport, but it has limitations.

Yes most good texts on transport cover diffusion theory.
 
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