Gravitational acceleration problem

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The problem involves two individuals, Alice and Bill, who release balls from the top of a building, with Alice throwing her ball downward and Bill simply dropping his. The question posed is about the acceleration of the balls just after their release, specifically which ball experiences greater acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the balls and question the assumptions about acceleration after release. Some explore the implications of Alice throwing the ball versus Bill dropping his.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the forces involved. Some participants suggest that both balls experience the same acceleration due to gravity after release, while others are questioning the role of the initial force exerted by Alice.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the definitions of forces acting on the balls and the distinction between the moments of throwing and releasing. Participants are examining the implications of these actions on the acceleration experienced by the balls.

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Homework Statement


Alice and Bill are at the top of a building. Alice throws her ball downward. Bill simply drops his ball. Which ball has the greater acceleration just after release?

Homework Equations


force, F=ma and F=mg

The Attempt at a Solution


Alice: F=ma+mg=m(a+g)
Bill: F=mg
Alice's ball has a greater acceleration.
I AM WRONG. WHY?
 
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Kenny Wong said:

Homework Statement


Alice and Bill are at the top of a building. Alice throws her ball downward. Bill simply drops his ball. Which ball has the greater acceleration just after release?

Homework Equations


force, F=ma and F=mg

The Attempt at a Solution


Alice: F=ma+mg=m(a+g)
Bill: F=mg
Alice's ball has a greater acceleration.
I AM WRONG. WHY?

After Alice releases the ball, what's producing that acceleration "a" that you put in your equation?
 
Because Alice throws instead of releases, an extra force is exerted downwards?
 
Kenny Wong said:
Because Alice throws instead of releases, an extra force is exerted downwards?
Bill drops, Alice throws. But both release, otherwise they'd still be holding onto their balls. You're meant to consider the portion of the trajectories when they are no longer in contact with their ball.
 
The acceleration for both of them should be the same.
An acceleration is produced only when there is an external forces is applied.
after release, the only force on the balls is tat of gravity.
Thus the acceleration will be the same for both of them.

Alice's ball has more acceleration only during the time when she is throwing the ball and excerting force, she gave it an initial velocity. After the ball leaves her hand, only gravity acts on it.
 

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