Gravitational Potential Due to a Thin Rod of Varying Density.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the gravitational potential and gravitational field due to a thin rod of varying density, defined by the equation λ = ky. The user initially struggles with integrating to find the gravitational potential φ(x) at a point (x,0) but eventually arrives at the expression φ(x) = -Gk[√(x^2+L^2) - x]. For part b, the user also finds success using polar coordinates to determine the gravitational field g at the same point. Overall, the thread highlights the challenges and eventual breakthroughs in solving gravitational potential problems involving variable density.
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Homework Statement



GRAVITATIONAL POTENTIAL AND FIELD DUE TO A “THIN” ROD
A thin rod of length L lies along the +y-axis, with one end at the
origin (see diagram).
Assume:
• The rod has length only- no thickness in other directions.
• The density of the rod increases proportionally to the
y-coordinate: λ = ky, where k is a known constant and λ is in
kg/m
• Gravitational potential is zero at infinity: φ (∞) = 0

a) Find the gravitational potential φ ( x) at a point (x,0) by direct integration.
b) Find the gravitational field g at a point (x,0) by direct integration.

Homework Equations



dφ = -(G dm)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



Still stuck on part a, so that's really the brunt of my question for now (though assistance with part b is more than welcome!).

Using the given density function to solve for dm and substituting √(x^2+y^2) for r, I have an expression for dφ:

dφ = -(Gk y dy)/√(x^2+y^2)

...but I have no idea how to manipulate this to get a soluble integral :( I've been messing around with partial derivatives and polar coordinates for hours, but nothing seems to work.
PLEASE HELP!
 
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Ah, I think I may have figured it out... x isn't actually changing here, so my attempts to relate it to y were completely unnecessary? The answer then (I think) would be:
φ(x) = --Gk[√(x^2+L^2) - x] .

Part b has me a bit stumped though... help would be lovely.
 
Alrighty, figured that bit out on my own as well... polar coordinates work out nicely.
 
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