Gravity affect on the motion of atoms ?

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The discussion explores the effects of gravity in supermassive black holes on atomic movement, questioning whether such gravity could "paralyze" atoms. It clarifies that at the core, predicted to be a singularity, there are no atoms or particles, and thus no temperature exists at that point. The conversation also notes that while black holes have entropy, the nature of information and temperature becomes meaningless due to the light cone structure preventing information from escaping the singularity. Additionally, it highlights that near the event horizon, incoming light is blueshifted, creating an illusion of heat. The topic briefly touches on unresolved issues in black hole physics, including the holographic principle.
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I was wondering if the run away gravity in a super massive black hole could cause a lock up of sorts, and stop (nearly) all atomic movement? Packing the matter at it's core so tightly, that it would paralyze it at an atomic level. Could this possibly mean that near the center of these monsters, it could actually be...cold?
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There is no "packing" at the core. Assuming the center is a singularity (=what General Relativity predicts) there are no atoms, or even individual particles any more. That also means the singularity itself does not have a temperature. The black hole as a whole object has one due to Hawking radiation, but that is a completely different thing.

If you are close to the event horizon of a black hole, but not falling in, all incoming light will be extremely blueshifted and will appear very hot to you.
If you are inside, you have to fall in, but blue-shifting can still happen.
 
Firstly, atomic lattice structure is not compatible with the light cone structure theoretically predicted inside a black hole, and is thus forbidden by principle of causality. (Unless some new theory breaks this, such as a tesseract bookshelf at the singularity:-p)

Secondly, the light cone structure dictates that information from the singularity is never transmitted radially outwards and thus no observer away from singularity could obtain any information about it. Without information, the notion of entropy is meaningless and so is temperature.

*However, black hole does have entropy. This is a mostly unresolved problem and people like Leonard Susskind proposed holographic principle to cope with it. Although I am no expert on holograms, I would assume that does not contain any information on the singularity itself nevertheless. But this is too far beyond the topic of this thread.
 
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