Heat and work -- how much energy to climb the rope....

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The problem involves calculating the energy dissipated as heat when a standard man climbs a vertical rope of 15 m, given that 23% of the total energy required is used for work. The context includes the man's mass of 70 kg and the use of the equation Q = mgΔh.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the 23% figure and question its validity, with some suggesting it may be a misstatement. Others explore how to approach the problem without knowing the total energy expended.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying the wording of the problem and considering different interpretations. Some guidance has been offered regarding how to set up the problem using an unknown for the total energy expended.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the phrasing of the problem, particularly the 23% figure, which has led to questions about its accuracy and implications for the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A standard man climbs 15 m up a vertical rope. How much energy (in cal) is dissipated as heat in a single climb if 23% of the total energy required is used to do the work? (Assume the standard man has a mass of 70 kg.)

Homework Equations


Q = mgΔh

The Attempt at a Solution


I used Q = mgΔh and took 23% of that and then converted it to calories and it was not correct. I think I am just not understanding what the question is asking for.
 
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Sam Vermeulen said:
if 23% of the total energy required is used to do the work?
That part doesn't make any sense. Is it copied word-for-word? Are you sure it's not 123%? How could it take less work than the change in energy?
 
berkeman said:
That part doesn't make any sense. Is it copied word-for-word? Are you sure it's not 123%? How could it take less work than the change in energy?
The wording is unclear, but I would it interpret as 23% of the energy the man expends goes into the useful work of ascending the rope.
 
Ah, that would make a lot more sense! Thanks haruspex.
 
berkeman said:
That part doesn't make any sense. Is it copied word-for-word? Are you sure it's not 123%? How could it take less work than the change in energy?
Yeah copied it word for word I'll try what haruspex said. Thank you for the help.
 
haruspex said:
The wording is unclear, but I would it interpret as 23% of the energy the man expends goes into the useful work of ascending the rope.
How would I go about this without knowing the amount of energy the man expended in the first place?
 
Sam Vermeulen said:
How would I go about this without knowing the amount of energy the man expended in the first place?
Just create an unknown for that and see what equation you can write.
 

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