Heat capacity at constant volume

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The discussion centers on the relationship between internal energy change (dU) and heat capacity at constant volume (C_V). It clarifies that while the equation dU = C_VdT is valid at constant volume, it is not universally true for all processes since dU also depends on volume changes. For ideal gases, dU = C_VdT holds true regardless of volume changes, as the partial derivative of internal energy with respect to volume is zero. However, for non-ideal gases, this relationship may not apply outside of constant volume conditions. The conclusion emphasizes that dU = C_VdT is specifically valid when volume is held constant.
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The question asks whether it is always true that
dU=C_VdT

and their answer is no, because from the 1st law of TD we derive that:
dU=C_VdT+\left(\frac{dU}{dV}\right)_TdV

However, if we hold the volume constant, dV=0 and therefore the second term disappears, is this right?


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Grand said:
dU=C_VdT+\left(\frac{dU}{dV}\right)_TdV

However, if we hold the volume constant, dV=0 and therefore the second term disappears, is this right?

From Wikipedia:
Wikipedia said:
If the process is performed at constant volume, then the second term of this relation vanishes and one readily obtains,

\left(\frac{\partial U}{\partial T}\right)_V=\left(\frac{\partial Q}{\partial T}\right)_V=C_V

This defines the heat capacity at constant volume, CV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_capacity

This is consistent with your assumption.
 
Grand said:

Homework Statement


The question asks whether it is always true that
dU=C_VdT

and their answer is no, because from the 1st law of TD we derive that:
dU=C_VdT+\left(\frac{dU}{dV}\right)_TdV

However, if we hold the volume constant, dV=0 and therefore the second term disappears, is this right?
Are you speaking about an ideal gas? If so, dU=C_VdT is always true, whether volume is constant or not. \left(\frac{\partial U}{\partial V}\right)_T = 0[/tex] for an ideal gas. This is not so for gases that obey the Van der Waals equation, for example.<br /> <br /> AM
 
But if the gas isn't ideal, then again dV=0 for constant volume and the second term vanishes.
 
Grand said:
But if the gas isn't ideal, then again dV=0 for constant volume and the second term vanishes.
By definition if volume is constant then dU = dQ = CvdT. That applies to any gas. The issue is whether it is always true that dU = CvdT, ie. in situations in which V is not constant. For an ideal gas it is always true.

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