Help me in a problem about pressure and force

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to pressure and force in the context of chemical engineering. Participants are helping a new student understand the relationships between pressure, force, and area, as well as the implications of using different unit systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Luj presents a problem involving pressure and force, seeking general guidance.
  • One participant suggests considering the forces involved and the relationships between force, pressure, and height.
  • Luj attempts to apply the principle of pressure equilibrium, stating P1 = P2 and deriving a relationship between forces and areas.
  • Another participant points out the need for unit consistency, noting that the applied force cannot be calculated directly without converting imperial units to metric.
  • A participant reminds Luj to account for the weight of the extra oil on one side of the problem.
  • Luj inquires about the use of density in the calculations and seeks clarification on the correct approach to the problem.
  • One participant asserts that the oil maintains the same specific gravity throughout the system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion shows a mix of agreement on the need for unit consistency and the importance of considering all forces, but there is no consensus on the specific approach to solving the problem or the application of density.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the implications of using different unit systems or the specific role of density in the calculations. There are also unresolved questions regarding the correct form of the problem and how to incorporate the weight of the oil.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students in chemical engineering or related fields who are grappling with concepts of pressure, force, and unit conversions in problem-solving contexts.

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Hey guys...
i'm new student in chemical engineering
and i want your help in a problem:

http://dc16.arabsh.com/i/03036/a79xeldzokge.png

at least give me the general idea and i would be greatful...

my regards...
Luj :)
 
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Welcome to PF!

Hi Luj! Welcome to PF! :wink:

(pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease don't post such wide pictures :redface:)

Hint: what are the forces involved?

What is the relation between force and pressure?

What is the relation between pressure and height? :smile:
 
Hey tiny tim :)
sorry i uploded a new pic :)

i actually got this:
P1 = P2
so F1/ A1 = F2 /A2
10000/500 = F/5 "but still can't complete!"

!?
 
First of all, you should realize that the applied force in Newtons can't be calculated directly without conversion, because the rest of the data is in imperial units. Make sure your equations use data having consistent units!
 
Hey Luj! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

Don't forget the weight of the extra oil on the right-hand side! :wink:
 
ok guys, should i use the density (0.78) here and in which side??
please can anyone tell me the right form for this pb? :(
 
The oil has the same specific gravity throughout.
 

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