Help with deriving an equation (coloumb's law, pith ball charges)

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The discussion focuses on deriving the equation for calculating the charge on a pith ball using Coulomb's Law in an AP Physics lab. The final equation presented is q = 2Lsinθ√((mgtanθ)/k), where θ is 17 degrees, L is 0.1524 meters, and m is the average mass of the two balls (0.1310 kg). Participants emphasize the importance of drawing a free body diagram and analyzing the x and y components of forces to solve for charge q effectively.

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Homework Statement



A lab we were recently given in AP Physics class contained an equation already derived. This lab was about determining the charge on a pith ball, using the static charge of a fur to charge the balls negatively, so they repel. Finding the angle and distance between the two balls, the electric charge can be determined.

This is the final equation

q = 2Lsinθ√((mgtanθ)/k)

theta is the measured angle in the experiment (in this case 17 degrees)
m is average mass of the two balls : .2620/2
L is the length of string to the pith ball, bascially the height or radius. Pith ball is hanging from a stand. (.1524 meters)

Homework Equations



Fgravitational=Gm1m2/(r^2) Felectricalfield = kq1q2/(r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I've got nothing.
 
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rad5brandon said:
I've got nothing.
Can I assume that the angle θ is the average angle between a given strand and the vertical (as opposed to the total angle between both strands)?

The fist place to start is by drawing a free body diagram.

Then work with the x-components and y-components separately. Since nothing is accelerating, the sum of all forces along a given component must be equal to zero. (For example, the y-component of the tension of a given strand must equal the force of gravity from the corresponding ball). Once you have the force equations for both x and y components, you can combine equations and solve for q (assuming that each ball has the same charge q on it).

Another hint: One of the relevant equations you posted was
Fgravitational=Gm1m2/(r^2)
There's no need to make it so complicated. Just use
Fgrav = mg
where m is the mass of the ball, and g ≈ 9.81 m/s2. :wink:
 

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