Help with RLC Circuit Oscilloscope Probe - Calculating Voltage Spike

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The discussion focuses on modeling an active oscilloscope probe for a 100MHz clock circuit, emphasizing the role of inductance in calculating voltage spikes or overshoot. The circuit includes two inductors representing probe signal and ground lead inductance, along with a series resistor, input capacitance of 1pF, and resistance of 1M. Questions arise regarding the behavior of inductors L1 and L2 during signal transitions, particularly whether L2 also opposes current changes. It is noted that removing the series resistor R1 simplifies the analysis, and a reference is made to an article by Bob Pease advocating for the use of a 50 or 75-ohm resistor with coaxial cables for better probing results. The discussion concludes with the clarification that both inductors in series experience current simultaneously.
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I am trying to model an oscilloscope probe(active probe).

The voltage source in the circuit is from the device under measurement.
Let's say a 100MHz clock.
The probe signal and ground lead inductance are represented by 2 inductors, then a small series resistor. I made up the value of the series resistor.
The input capacitance is 1pF and resistance is 1M.

How do I calculate the voltage spike (overshoot) caused because of the inductance?

Another question - when the signal rises from 0 to 5v, the inductor L1 opposes the change. When the current reaches L2, does L2 also oppose the change?
 

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R1 is 2.00M, if it is left out there would be very little effect on the circuit.

With R1 removed, this is a simple series circuit and should be easy to analyize.

Bob Pease of National Semiconductor wrote an article about using a 50 ohm (or maybe it was 75 ohm) resistor and coax as a probe for an oscilloscope. He had better results than using an active probe.
If you are unable to locate the article with Google, I will check to see if I have it on file.

"Another question - when the signal rises from 0 to 5v, the inductor L1 opposes the change. When the current reaches L2, does L2 also oppose the change? "
The two inductors are in series, so the current goes through them at the same time.

Good Luck
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