Here's a toughy about pulleys and friction

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The problem involves a block connected to a bucket via a cord over a frictionless pulley, with a focus on the effects of static and kinetic friction as sand is added to the bucket. Participants express confusion regarding the setup and the relevance of the friction coefficients provided.

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  • Participants question the clarity of the problem statement, particularly the mention of a table and the coefficients of friction. There is uncertainty about the initial conditions and how to determine the mass of sand needed to initiate movement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance on the concept of limiting equilibrium and the transition from static to kinetic friction has been introduced, but no consensus has been reached regarding the exact approach to solving the problem.

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Participants note the lack of a diagram and express concern over the vagueness of the problem, particularly regarding the assumptions about the block's placement and the relevance of the friction coefficients.

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This is my problem:

A 28 kg. block is connected to an empty 1.00 kg. bucket by a cord running over a frictionless pulley. The coefficient of static friction between the table and the block is 0.45 and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the table and the block is 0.32. Sand is gradually added to the bucket until the system just begins to move. (a) Calculate the mass of sand added to bucket. (b) Calculate the acceleration of the system.

Now, I found this problem pretty vague. I'm assuming the the heavier block is on the table, which makes the most sense. I'm not sure why they gave me both the static and kinetic friction. My problem is I'm not sure how to decide the exact amount of sand to add.
 
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I don't follow this at all. How can the question say:
"The coefficient of static friction between the table and the block..."
when a table has not been previously mentioned?

Is there a diagram?
 
Nope, this is all the problem says. It's meant to "make us think", but I'm just getting a headache. From what I can gather, the heavier block is on a table, their is a frictionless pulley on the corner of the table, and an empty bucket is hanging on the rope tying the two masses together. Any ideas?
 
The block is placed on a horizontal table and the bucket and the send in it creating tension in the string which acts on the block to pull it towards the pulley, gives rise to the friction between the block and the table. You have to find the mass of the sand for limiting equilibrium of the block.

Ones the block start slipping, the friction is reduces to kinetic friction and hence the net force is resultant of tension and the kinetic friction is accelerating the block and the bucket.
 

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