High Voltage LED Solution for 4.2A Circuit

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The discussion centers on integrating an LED indicator into a high-voltage circuit with a 680V capacitor and a current of 4.22A. The user is struggling to find suitable components, particularly resistors that can handle the high power requirements for a voltage divider, and is concerned about the potential for burning out components. Suggestions include using larger resistor values to reduce power dissipation, which would allow for lower wattage resistors to be used safely. The user clarifies that the system powers a Variable Frequency Drive (VFD) and seeks to monitor when the capacitor voltage drops below a certain threshold. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding basic electronics principles when working with high-voltage systems.
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I have a circuit and it has a cap that has around 680V and the high current that is pull it 4.22A. I need to add an LED to let me know when the Cap is drain. The problem I am having is that since the voltage and current are so high, I can't use a Hall effect sensor . I can't find one rated for that much voltage. I could do a voltage divider and have R1 be 600 ohms and R2 needs be 22 ohms but I can't find a resistor rated for 2911.8 Watts. Can someone help me ?
 
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Why can't you make the voltage divider resistors much larger? If R1 is 600 KOhms and R2 is 22KOhms the power will be less than 1 Watt.
 
phyzguy said:
Why can't you make the voltage divider resistors much larger? If R1 is 600 KOhms and R2 is 22KOhms the power will be less than 1 Watt.
ok to i use the power equation P = V*I to get my power and I measure my current to be at a max of 4.22 and my voltage around 680V, This is why no resistors in my resistors in my circuit, so now you are saying if I add the voltage divider to the cap, it will not burn up the resistors ? I thought any resistor i added to the circuit would have to be rated for the max watts. If I am wrong can you please explain to me ?
 
btb4198 said:
ok to i use the power equation P = V*I to get my power and I measure my current to be at a max of 4.22 and my voltage around 680V, This is why no resistors in my resistors in my circuit, so now you are saying if I add the voltage divider to the cap, it will not burn up the resistors ? I thought any resistor i added to the circuit would have to be rated for the max watts. If I am wrong can you please explain to me ?
Power dissipated in a resistor: R⋅I2. Since I = V/R in this case, you get P = V2/R. Since V is 680V, assume R = 1MΩ and calculate the power dissipation: P = (6802/1000 000)W = 0.46W. The current through the resistor is (680/1000 000) A = 0.68mA. This current will make a LED glow, but not very brightly.
 
btb4198 said:
I have a circuit and it has a cap that has around 680V and the high current that is pull it 4.22A. I need to add an LED to let me know when the Cap is drain. The problem I am having is that since the voltage and current are so high, I can't use a Hall effect sensor . I can't find one rated for that much voltage. I could do a voltage divider and have R1 be 600 ohms and R2 needs be 22 ohms but I can't find a resistor rated for 2911.8 Watts. Can someone help me ?
Um, why are you working with a 680V circuit with so little understanding of basic electronics? Sounds like kind of a dangerous situation to me...
 
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berkeman said:
Um, why are you working with a 680V circuit with so little understanding of basic electronics? Sounds like kind of a dangerous situation to me...

It is my 1st time with voltage this high. I normal work with embedded systems.
 
btb4198 said:
It is my 1st time with voltage this high. I normal work with embedded systems.
What is the system/device? What does it do, and why are you adding things to it? Please help us understand the situation.
 
berkeman said:
What is the system/device? What does it do, and why are you adding things to it? Please help us understand the situation.
it is a system and it give power to a VFD. I have 120 Vac coming in from a UPS and I convert that to 680V DC and that goes to the DC bus on the VFD.
 
What do you mean by "drain" in your post #1? Drained below a set voltage?
 

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