Hölder's Theorem & Manipulating 1/p + 1/q = 1

  • Thread starter Thread starter zxh
  • Start date Start date
zxh
Messages
8
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



How do you get from 1/p +1/q = 1 to (p-1)(q-1) = 1? (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konjugation_%28Reelle_Zahlen%29" )

Homework Equations



Is log(xy) = log(x) + log(y) in any way related to this, i.e the rewritten subject title?

The Attempt at a Solution



Manipulate[
ContourPlot[x + y == x*y, {x, -m, m}, {y, -m, m},
PlotRange -> Automatic], {m, -100, 100}]

TIA!
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Multiply out and compare. Logarithms have nothing to do with the equation you mentioned, but you might be using the logarithm to prove some other aspect of Hölders inequality.
 
zxh said:
How do you get from 1/p +1/q = 1 to (p-1)(q-1) = 1? (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konjugation_%28Reelle_Zahlen%29" )

You can get the second equation from the first one by multiplying both sides of the first equation by pq, then subtracting 1, and factoring. Try, it is fun. :smile:

ehild
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Alright, makes me look tired, but i thought the similarity with the logarithm was too salient not to connect the two.
 
There are two things I don't understand about this problem. First, when finding the nth root of a number, there should in theory be n solutions. However, the formula produces n+1 roots. Here is how. The first root is simply ##\left(r\right)^{\left(\frac{1}{n}\right)}##. Then you multiply this first root by n additional expressions given by the formula, as you go through k=0,1,...n-1. So you end up with n+1 roots, which cannot be correct. Let me illustrate what I mean. For this...
Back
Top