Homework help (Force of friction)

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem concerning the force of friction and its relationship to the normal force. The main question is about determining the force of friction required to make a body with a force of 10N move. Participants express confusion over the problem's wording, particularly regarding the definitions of force and the context of the scenario. It is clarified that the force of friction must be less than or equal to the normal force for movement to occur, but the problem's phrasing is deemed unclear. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for precise language in physics problems to avoid confusion.
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Homework Statement


We have a body with force ##F=10N##. Now we know Force of friction makes the body not move if the Force of friction ##F_f## is higher than the normal force ##F_n##, so what force of friction do we have to depress to make the body move



2. The attempt at a solution
We know that the force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the solution would be:

##F_f ≤ 10N##

Am I right? Thanks!
 
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-Physician said:

Homework Statement


We have a body with force ##F=10N##. Now we know Force of friction makes the body not move if the Force of friction ##F_f## is higher than the normal force ##F_n##, so what force of friction do we have to depress to make the body move



2. The attempt at a solution
We know that the force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the solution would be:

##F_f ≤ 10N##

Am I right? Thanks!


Where is this body? is it being pinned to a vertical wall with a horizontal force or are you trying to push it across a surface?
 
That's what the task says
 
-Physician said:

Homework Statement


We have a body with force ##F=10N##. Now we know Force of friction makes the body not move if the Force of friction ##F_f## is higher than the normal force ##F_n##, so what force of friction do we have to depress to make the body move

2. The attempt at a solution
We know that the force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the solution would be:

##F_f ≤ 10N##

Am I right? Thanks!
In general the normal force is perpendicular to the surface, and the force of friction is parallel to the surface, so this question appears to make no sense!

What is the context of this question?

Where did you find it?

Who gave it to you?

Where did that person find it?
 
It's my teacher's homework ..., she found it from the book, and the task says:

The body has force ##F=10N##. What force of friction ##F_f## do we have to depress to make the body move. Remind:
The force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the body can move.

This is the exact text that is written on the book.
 
-Physician said:
It's my teacher's homework ..., she found it from the book, and the task says:

The body has force ##F=10N##. What force of friction ##F_f## do we have to depress to make the body move. Remind:
The force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the body can move.

This is the exact text that is written on the book.

Well that might be what is written, but it still makes no sense at all.

Breaking down what you have written:

"The body has force ##F=10N##" .
Now if the body had a weight of 10N it would have more meaning.


"What force of friction do we have to depress ... "
If that had read "What force of friction do we have to oppose ... " we would be part way to a logical situation.

"The force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the body can move".

Not quite sure what that might mean?
 
That's what is written on book, maybe they're technical mistakes?
 
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