How can I find the distance and centroid of a hatch in fluid mechanics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the distance from the fluid surface to the center of a hatch (H_c) and determining the centroid of the hatch in a fluid mechanics context. The problem involves geometric considerations and calculations related to specific weight and resultant force.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses difficulty in calculating H_c and mentions the area of the hatch and specific weight calculations.
  • The original poster provides a formula for the resultant force (F_r) based on specific weight, area, and H_c.
  • Another participant suggests reviewing trigonometric definitions to assist in finding H_c.
  • The original poster later reports successfully calculating H_c using a different approach involving trigonometry.
  • The original poster describes finding the centroids of the hatch's components by summing the composites of the shapes involved.

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Participants do not express disagreement; however, the original poster's initial confusion contrasts with their later success in solving the problem. The discussion reflects a progression from uncertainty to resolution without explicit consensus on methods.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about geometric relationships and trigonometric functions that may not be fully articulated. The methods for calculating centroids are not detailed, leaving some steps unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals studying fluid mechanics, particularly those working on problems involving geometry and forces in fluids.

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Im working on the problem below...

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4939/dfadfgs5.jpg

Im having trouble finding the distance I have labled in the problem...H_c...which is the distance from the fluid surface to the center of the hatch...It appears to be found just using geometry but I am not getting it...

I found the area of the hatch to be .160 m...by adding the areas of the rectangle and two semi circles...and I have the specific weight found by multiplying (.90 x 9.81 Kn/m^3) = 8.83 Kn/m^3...

so the resultant force formula is

F_r = specific weight x area x H_c...

and the correct answer for the resultant force is 1213 N...but I can't get H_c...

Also later in the problem I have to find the centroid of the hatch...so how would I go about doing that...would I take the centroid for each shape and average them?
 
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Jason03: Study some trigonometry. I.e., memorize the definition of sine, cosine, and tangent for a right triangle. Remember those? You must learn those.

The length of the slanted side would be (0.6 m)/cos(40 deg), right? See if you can figure out how to find H_c and F_r now.
 
yea actually i figured it out shortly after i posted...but i did it slightly differently..

Cos40 = y/.450

Y= .450cos40

Y= .344 m

So ….(.6 +.6) - .344 = .855

h_c = .855 m


and the centroids were easily enough found by just adding the sum of the composites of a circle and square...

Thanks!
 
Nice work. That is a good approach you used.
 

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