How Do Decibel Levels Combine in Different Scenarios?

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The discussion revolves around the combination of decibel levels in sound pressure, specifically addressing how to calculate total sound pressure levels when identical tones are added and how to determine the difference in decibels between various sound sources based on their relative levels.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of total sound pressure levels for two identical tones at 88 dB SPL and discuss the implications of logarithmic relationships in decibel calculations. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of decibel differences when comparing multiple sound sources.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding the factors corresponding to decibel levels. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between sound levels, with no explicit consensus reached on all points.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of decibel calculations, including the distinction between sound pressure levels and their logarithmic nature. There is mention of specific numerical relationships that may require clarification.

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1. What is the total sound pressure levels of two identical tones, each 88db SPL, when added together?

For this question, using the equation dB SPL = 20log(P/2*10^-5), I found the value of P where dB SPL = 88, then doubled this value, then fed it back into the equation, to obtain a value of 94 db SPL. Is this correct?

2. If A is 20dB above B and B is 40dB above C, how many decibels is A above C?
I was struggling with this question - does anyone have any advice on how to tackle it?
 
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nokia8650 said:
1. What is the total sound pressure levels of two identical tones, each 88db SPL, when added together?
For this question, using the equation dB SPL = 20log(P/2*10^-5), I found the value of P where dB SPL = 88, then doubled this value, then fed it back into the equation, to obtain a value of 94 db SPL. Is this correct?

Yes. A less tedious way to do it would be to realize that log(2x)=log(x)+log(2), so dB SPL increases by 20*log(2).

2. If A is 20dB above B and B is 40dB above C, how many decibels is A above C?
I was struggling with this question - does anyone have any advice on how to tackle it?

Why would it not be 60? If you need to convince yourself, 20dB corresponds to a factor of 100, 40dB to a factor of 10,000. A is 100 times louder than B and B is 10,000 times louder than C, so A should be 10^6 times louder than C. That's 60 dB.
 
Ahh yes I see, thank you! However, does 20dB not correspond to a factor of 10, and 40dB to a factor of 100, given the fact it is dB SPL, and hence 20logx as opposed to 10logx?

Also, the next part of the question asks - if the sound pressure of D is four times that of E, by how many decibels do they differ? For this, would one simply find 20log4?

Thanks again
 
nokia8650 said:
Ahh yes I see, thank you! However, does 20dB not correspond to a factor of 10, and 40dB to a factor of 100, given the fact it is dB SPL, and hence 20logx as opposed to 10logx?

Oops. You're completely right--it should be a factor of 10, not 20. Sorry about that.
Also, the next part of the question asks - if the sound pressure of D is four times that of E, by how many decibels do they differ? For this, would one simply find 20log4?

Yes.
 

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