How Do You Calculate Electric Potential of a Nonuniformly Charged Rod?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric potential of a nonuniformly charged rod with a linear charge distribution described by λ = ax. For points along the y-axis, the potential V is determined to be zero after integration. For points along the x-axis (x > l), the user struggles with integration limits and the correct interpretation of the distance variable "r." A change of variables is suggested to simplify the integration process, leading to a clearer understanding of how to express the potential in terms of the given parameters. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the limits of integration and the relationship between the variables involved.
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[SOLVED] Electric potential

Homework Statement



The charge on the rod of the figure (length 2l, center at the origin) has a nonuniform linear charge distribution, λ = ax.
Determine the potential V at:

(a) points along the y-axis.
(b) points along the x-axis. (Assume x > l)

(express all answers in terms of a, x, l, ε0 and appropriate constants)



Homework Equations



dQ = λdx
dV = dQ/(4*pi*ε0*r)



The Attempt at a Solution



For part a, V = 0 because
dV = dQ/[4*pi*ε0*(x2 + y2)1/2] dx with limits of integration from -l to l.

For part b, I'm having a really hard time determining the limits of integration and what "r" in dV is (ie, is it x or is it r, a segment of the rod?). I tried a lot of things, none of which produced the correct answer. Right now, I have

Let k = 1/(4*pi*ε0)
I'm treating "x" as a fixed distance from the rod, while calling r a segment or distance along the rod starting at x - l.

dV = [k(ar)]/(x - l + r) dr with integration limits from x - l to x + l (one end of the rod to the other)

With change of variables,
u = x - l + r
dx = du
r = u - x + l
integration limits become 2x - 2l to 2x


dV = [ka(u - x + l)] /u du
= ka (1 + (l - x)/u) du

V = ka(u + (l - x)ln(u))
V = ka(2x - (2x - 2l) + (l - x)ln(2x) - (l - x)ln(2x - 2l))
V = ka(2l + (l - x)ln(2x / 2x - 2l))
V = ka(2l + (l - x)ln(x / (x - l)))

I have a feeling that this is wrong, especially because I still don't completely understand what I'm supposed to integrate along, etc. Can someone explain how to go about solving this problem and point out what I am doing incorrectly?

Thank you!
 
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Along x, aren't you integrating in r at any point x > l from the distance x - l the closest point to x + l the farthest distance?
 
umm, I was until the change of variables part--unless I don't need a change of variables and integrated the wrong expression?
 
misa said:
umm, I was until the change of variables part--unless I don't need a change of variables and integrated the wrong expression?

I guess what I was trying to suggest was that you have an r for some point X > l such that r(x) = X - x. You would be taking the integral of this I was thinking from x = l to x = -l

dV = k*a*x/r(x)*dx = k*a*x/(X - x)*dx
 
Oh! Okay, that makes sense (where X is treated like it's fixed but r(x) is still the distance from X to x, some point on the rod). Thank you!
 
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