How Do You Calculate the Initial Speeds of Two Electrons in a Collision?

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The problem involves calculating the initial speeds of two electrons that are fired directly at each other, with a specified closest approach distance. The context includes concepts from electrostatics and kinetic energy, as the participants explore the relationship between these forms of energy in the collision scenario.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the potential energy between the electrons at their closest approach and relate it to their kinetic energy. There are attempts to calculate the initial velocities based on these energy considerations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for the velocities of the electrons, expressing confidence in their results. However, there is a noted discrepancy with the textbook answer, leading to questions about the correctness of the calculations and the nature of the expected results.

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There is an indication of confusion regarding the number of expected answers for the initial speeds, as one participant notes that the textbook provides only one answer despite the problem suggesting two velocities should be present.

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Homework Statement


Two electrons separated by a large distance are fired directly at each other. The closest approach in this head-on collision is 4.0 * 10-14 m. One electron starts with twice the speed of the other. Assuming there is no deflection from the original path, determine the initial speed of each electron.


Homework Equations


Ee = kq1q2 / r
Ek = 1/2 mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm really lost as to how to start this. It must have something to do with electrical and kinetic energy but other than that I am mystified as to how to solve this.
 
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My first step would be to calculate the potential of 2 electrons at the given separation (equation 1)
The total KE would then be equal to this as the next step
 
OK, so I'm getting the velocities as 1.0 * 108 m/s and 5.0 * 107 m/s. I'm pretty confident about this but the textbook only gives one answer (5.3 *7 10) m/s. There should be two velocities as an answer, so I think that must be an error. Is my answer correct?
 
Millacol88 said:

Homework Statement


Two electrons separated by a large distance are fired directly at each other. The closest approach in this head-on collision is 4.0 * 10-14 m. One electron starts with twice the speed of the other. Assuming there is no deflection from the original path, determine the initial speed of each electron.


Homework Equations


Ee = kq1q2 / r
Ek = 1/2 mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm really lost as to how to start this. It must have something to do with electrical and kinetic energy but other than that I am mystified as to how to solve this.

Millacol88 said:
OK, so I'm getting the velocities as 1.0 * 108 m/s and 5.0 * 107 m/s. I'm pretty confident about this but the textbook only gives one answer (5.3 *7 10) m/s. There should be two velocities as an answer, so I think that must be an error. Is my answer correct?

I suppose yes, your answers are correct !
 

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