How Do You Calculate the Period of a Compound Pendulum with Two Masses?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the period of a compound pendulum with two equal masses attached to a light rod. The initial calculations for the center of mass and moment of inertia were incorrect, leading to confusion about the period formula. After identifying the need to apply the parallel axis theorem correctly, the correct moment of inertia was determined, resulting in the accurate period equation. The final period of the pendulum is expressed as T=2pi(41L/45g)^0.5. The clarification of the pivot point and the configuration of the pendulum was also addressed.
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Homework Statement



Consider a light rod of negligible mass and length "L" pivoted on a frictionless horizontal bearing at a point "O." Attached to the end of the rod is a mass "m." Also, a second mass "M" of equal size (i.e., m=M) is attached to the rod (0.2L from the lower end). What is the period of this pendulum in the small angle approximation?

Homework Equations



T=2pi(I/Hgm)^0.5
where H=the length from the center of mass to the point of rotation
rcm=(r1m+r2M)/(m+M)
Icm=m(L1)^2+M(L2)^2
I=Icm+m(d)^2

The Attempt at a Solution


rcm=(r1m+r2M)/(m+M)
rcm=[(L+0.8L)m)]/2m
rcm=0.9L (from the point of rotation)

Icm=mL^2+mL^2
Icm=m[(0.1L)^2+(-0.1L)^2]
Icm=0.02mL^2

I=Icm+md^2
I=0.02mL^2+m(0.9L)^2
I=0.83mL^2

T=2pi(I/Hgm)^0.5
T=2pi(0.83mL2/0.9Lgm)^0.5
T=2pi(83L/90g)^0.5

I'm really unsure as to what I'm doing wrong so it'd be great if someone could point out what I'm doing wrong--perhaps I've mistaken what one of the variable is supposed to represent? Thanks!

P.S. if it helps, the answer is 2pi(41L/45g)^0.5, I'd just love to know how to get to that.

OK so another update. I just realized I'm one digit off--because the answer is 82/90, not 83/90. I think the error must be with finding the Icm, because everything would simplify properly if Icm=0.01 instead of 0.02. I'm just confused as to why Icm would only be with regards to one mass instead of both...

FIGURED IT OUT:
No parallel axis theorem and now the period equation makes sense because we can put in 2m instead of m-->
Solution:

rcm=(r1m+r2M)/(m+M)
rcm=[(L+0.8L)m)]/2m
rcm=0.9L (from the point of rotation)

Icm=mr^2+mr^2
Icm=m(1L)^2+m(0.8L)^2
Icm=1.64L^2

T=2pi(I/Hgm)^0.5
T=2pi(1.64mL^2/0.9Lg2m)^0.5
T=2pi(82L/90g)^0.5
T=2pi(41L/45g)^0.5
 
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Is there a diagram that goes with this? Where's O?
 
It is a pendulum, thus O is at the opposite end of the rod.
 
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