How do you find the phase difference when given two sine equations and a X and t

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To find the phase difference between two sine equations, y1 = Asin(k1x - w1t) and y2 = Asin(k2x - w2t), the phase difference is determined by evaluating the expressions at a specific point x and time t. The general form includes a phase constant, ci, which needs to be accounted for to accurately calculate the phase difference. If the frequencies differ, the phase difference will change with position and time. The discussion highlights a common mistake in converting radians to degrees, emphasizing the importance of proper unit conversion. Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving problems related to superposition and standing waves.
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ok, I would just like to know in general b/c we have to do this a lot.
The equations have the same amplitude, but different k and w
suppose you have y1 = Asin(k1x-w1t) and y2 = Asin(k2-w2t)

and only other information is they are on a string, at a point x, and a time t.

side note anyone know any good websites for help with superposition and standing waves b/c this section I am struggling with : /
 
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If the frequencies are different then the phase difference will also vary with position and time. Your two equations are not quite general, They assume the waves are in phase at x=0, t=0. So let's expand them to sin(kix+wit+ci).
At a given x and t, the phases are kix+wit+ci. So the phase difference is simply the difference of those two quantities (but you probably want to reduce that modulo 2π).
 
haruspex said:
If the frequencies are different then the phase difference will also vary with position and time. Your two equations are not quite general, They assume the waves are in phase at x=0, t=0. So let's expand them to sin(kix+wit+ci).
At a given x and t, the phases are kix+wit+ci. So the phase difference is simply the difference of those two quantities (but you probably want to reduce that modulo 2π).

Thanks for the help. but I still have a question, What do you mean by ci? b/c I thought I could get the answer by subtracting the difference of the two -> kix+wi , but I get totally the wrong answer. I get 9 radians and the answer is 152 degrees. So I would suppose that variable ci is what I am missing. so if you could explain it, I would be grateful!

and I suppose c is the phase constant, but how would you solve for it in this situation
 
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randoreds said:
I get 9 radians and the answer is 152 degrees.
As I said:
haruspex said:
(but you probably want to reduce that modulo 2π)
 
sorry, I am terrible at physics. I get 20(5) -32(2) = 36, 25(5) - 40(2) = 45, 45 - 36 = 9 radians if you convert that to degrees, pi/20.

therefore, I have no idea how to get to the answer from there. any n2pi won't give me 152 radians. I get like 171 or 351.

It might be simple, but how do you get from my answer to the right one?
 
randoreds said:
9 radians if you convert that to degrees, pi/20.
To convert radians to degrees, multiply by 180/pi.
 
oh, I can't believe I was making that mistake. thank you so much.
 
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