How Does Energy Source Curvature? Exploring the EEP

In summary: It seems that the EEP is asserting that geometric curvature of spacetime is the only cause of the trajectories of energy in a gravitational field, and that this curvature is due to the mass of the energy sources rather than any other contributing forces.
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TL;DR Why does the Einstein equivalence principle imply that all forms of (non-gravitational) energy source curvature?

Now, as understand it, the Einstein equivalence principle (EEP) implies (or at least suggests) that gravity is the manifestation of spacetime curvature, the reason being that it is impossible to locally distinguish, through conducting any non-gravitational experiment, between inertial acceleration and acceleration due to the presence of a gravitational field. As a consequence, all non-gravitational forms of energy will fall at the same rate in a gravitational field. This observation suggests that the curved trajectories of energy in a gravitational field is due to geometric nature of spacetime itself, and not due to a force, i.e. spacetime is curved.

We know from Newtonian gravity that mass sources gravity and thus, if gravity is the manifestation of spacetime curvature, the presence of mass must curve spacetime.

I’ve read that the EEP implies that all forms of non-gravitational energy source curvature, but I don’t understand why this is so?

I thought that it was simply due to the consequence of mass-energy equivalence from special relativity that energy sources curvature?!

Is the point that the weak equivalence principle neglects other contributions to mass energy (e.g. electromagnetic binding energy) and so in principle it could be that mass sources curvature, but that the electromagnetic binding energies etc. do not, and so would respond differently in a gravitational field. However, the EEP claims that all forms of energy couple to gravity in the same way and so they must also be considered sources of curvature?!
 
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Frank Castle said:
I’ve read that the EEP implies that all forms of non-gravitational energy source curvature

Where did you read this? Please give a reference. (And if the reference is not a textbook or peer-reviewed paper, please be ready to be told that it's not a valid reference and you should go read a textbook or peer-reviewed paper.)
 
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PeterDonis said:
Where did you read this? Please give a reference. (And if the reference is not a textbook or peer-reviewed paper, please be ready to be told that it's not a valid reference and you should go read a textbook or peer-reviewed paper.)

Sorry for the delayed response. I’ve been reading these notes on the cosmological constant problem: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1502.05296.pdf

However, when (classical) gravity is switched on the equivalence principle tells us that all forms of energy curve spacetime[...]

It’s just a short sentence at the bottom of page 3, but it has left me confused.
 
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Frank Castle said:
I thought that it was simply due to the consequence of mass-energy equivalence from special relativity that energy sources curvature?!

Careful here. The equivalence you speak of is between mass and rest energy.
 
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SiennaTheGr8 said:
Careful here. The equivalence you speak of is between mass and rest energy.
Good point.

So what is the motivation for why all forms of (non-gravitational) energy source curvature? Is it simply that we know from Newtonian gravity that mass sources the gravitational field. If gravity is simply the manifestation of spacetime curvature, then mass must source curvature (locally). Then by the EEP we know that all forms of (non-gravitational) energy must couple to gravity identically (otherwise we would be able to detect whether we are in local uniform acceleration, or in a gravitational field simply by carrying out experiments involving different non-gravitational phenomena), and so these must also source local spacetime curvature?
 

What is the Energy Source Curvature?

The Energy Source Curvature is a concept in physics that describes how the shape or curvature of spacetime affects the flow of energy. It is a fundamental aspect of the Einstein Equivalence Principle (EEP), which states that the laws of physics should be the same for all observers, regardless of their location or motion.

How does Energy Source Curvature relate to the EEP?

The EEP is based on the idea that gravity is not a force, but rather a result of the curvature of spacetime caused by the presence of mass and energy. Therefore, the shape of spacetime, or energy source curvature, is directly linked to the EEP and plays a crucial role in our understanding of gravity and the laws of physics.

What are some examples of Energy Source Curvature in action?

One of the most well-known examples of energy source curvature is the bending of light around massive objects, such as stars or galaxies. This phenomenon, known as gravitational lensing, is a direct result of the curvature of spacetime caused by the massive object. Another example is the gravitational time dilation effect, where time moves slower in regions of higher gravity due to the curvature of spacetime.

How do scientists study Energy Source Curvature?

Scientists study energy source curvature through a variety of methods, including observations of astronomical objects, experiments using high-precision instruments, and mathematical models and simulations. These studies help us understand the effects of energy source curvature and how it relates to the EEP and our understanding of gravity.

What are the implications of Energy Source Curvature?

Energy source curvature has significant implications for our understanding of the universe, as it plays a crucial role in gravity and the laws of physics. It also has practical applications, such as in the development of technologies like GPS, which rely on precise measurements of time and space that are affected by energy source curvature.

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