How Does Immersion in a Liquid Affect Diffraction Fringe Spacing?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the wavelength of a monochromatic light source using a diffraction grating immersed in a liquid with a refractive index of 1.3. The key equations derived include the relationship between fringe spacing in air and in the liquid, with the distance between adjacent bright fringes reduced by 0.45 m. Participants clarify that the distance should be interpreted correctly and that the refractive index affects the wavelength, leading to the conclusion that the wavelength in air is 6.5 x 10^-7 m. The problem-solving approach involves setting up simultaneous equations for the diffraction patterns in both air and the liquid.
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A monochromatic light source is incident normally on a diffraction grating with 600 lines per mm. The beam passes through the grating and the fringes are observed on a screen 5m away. The apparatus is then immersed in a liquid whose refractive index is 1.3. In consequence the distance between the adjacent bright fringes is reduced by 0.45m. Find the wavelength of this light source in air.

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I derived the formula: x = n\lambdaD / d , where D = 5m and d = 1 / (600 x 10^3) = 1.67 x 10^-6m

then I said: x - 0.45 = (1.3\lambda x D x n)/ d

but there are two unknowns, and this is where I'm stuck. I have the feeling that simultaneous equations will be needed.

Thanks for any help!
 
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How can I use the refractive index to solve the question?
 
jasper10 said:
I derived the formula: x = n\lambdaD / d , where D = 5m and d = 1 / (600 x 10^3) = 1.67 x 10^-6m

then I said: x - 0.45 = (1.3\lambda x D x n)/ d
Two problems:
(1) The distance between adjacent fringes is not reduced by 0.45 m, it is reduced to 0.45 m. In other words: x = 0.45 m.
(2) In that formula, n is the order of the fringe, not the index of refraction.

jasper10 said:
How can I use the refractive index to solve the question?
How does the presence of the liquid affect the wavelength of the light?
 
Doc Al said:
Two problems:
(1) The distance between adjacent fringes is not reduced by 0.45 m, it is reduced to 0.45 m. In other words: x = 0.45 m.

The question clearly says BY 0.45 m.

Doc Al said:
(2) In that formula, n is the order of the fringe, not the index of refraction.
Yes I'm aware of this: I used n to be 1 (first order maximum). Hence I am considering the angle between n=1 and n=0.

Doc Al said:
How does the presence of the liquid affect the wavelength of the light?

The liquid decreases the wavelength. does this mean: 1.3\lambda = 1.0\lambda' (assuming that the refractive index for air is n=1)

Can you please help me find a method of how to tackle this question? I still don't see it unfortunately! Thanks!
 
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jasper10 said:
The question clearly says BY 0.45 m.
Hmmm... Did you edit your post? I don't recall reading that. In any case, OK.

Yes I'm aware of this: I used n to be 1 (first order maximum). Hence I am considering the angle between n=1 and n=0.
OK.
The liquid decreases the wavelength. does this mean: 1.3\lambda = 1.0\lambda' (assuming that the refractive index for air is n=1)
Yes. λair = 1.3λliquid

Can you please help me find a method of how to tackle this question? I still don't see it unfortunately!
Your initial idea of simultaneous equations was correct. Set up two diffraction equations, one for liquid and one for air.
 
ok but which equation should I use?

\lambda

x - 0.45 = (1.3\lambda x D x n)/ d

and x = (\lambda x D x n) / d ?

Thanks for your help!
 
jasper10 said:
x - 0.45 = (1.3\lambda x D x n)/ d
Why 1.3λ? You want xliquid = λliquid (D/d). (Expressed in terms of x and λ, of course.)
and x = (\lambda x D x n) / d ?
OK. (That's the equation for air.)
 
Doc Al said:
Why 1.3λ? You want xliquid = λliquid (D/d). (Expressed in terms of x and λ, of course.)

But I assume you want to express \lambdaliquid in terms of λair.

So i came to the conclusion:

In water: x - 0.45 = (Dλair/1.3) / d
In air: x = (λairD) / d
(I have not included n in these to equations, as I have taken n = 1)

Solving this gives: λair= 6.5 x 10^-7 m
Is this correct? I have a feeling that it isn't (because the question is worth a lot of marks- which hints that it takes more than a few steps!) :S Thanks!
 
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jasper10 said:
Solving this gives: λair= 6.5 x 10^-7 m
Is this correct?
Looks good to me.
 
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