How Does Moving Towards the Center Affect a Merry-Go-Round's Kinetic Energy?

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When a child moves towards the center of a revolving merry-go-round, the system's angular momentum (L) remains conserved due to the absence of net torque acting on it. The rotational kinetic energy (K) of the system decreases because the moment of inertia (I) decreases as the child moves inward, while L remains constant. The confusion arises from the distinction between the child's translational kinetic energy and the merry-go-round's rotational kinetic energy. The torque affecting the child is generated by friction, not gravity, and the system can be considered isolated. Understanding these principles clarifies the relationship between angular momentum and kinetic energy in this scenario.
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Homework Statement


A child is initially sitting near the outer rim of a revolving merry-go-round. Suddenly, the child moves towards the center of the merry-go-round (while it is still revolving). For the merry-go-round+child system, let the symbols L and K refer to the magnitude of the angular momentum (about the center of the merry-go-round) and rotational kinetic energy, respectively.

Consider the following statements:

Ia. L is conserved Ib. L increases Ic. L decreases

IIa. K is conserved IIb. K increases IIc. K decreases

Which of these statements are true? (The explanation is for the choice of ’II’)

Homework Equations


So, I know L is conserved/constant when dl/dt=0. And I know dl/dt=0 when net torque =0. But, how can I tell from reading this problem that the net torque is zero?
when I draw a diagram of the merry go round and the child on it and make my axis the center of the merry go round, I get Net torque = -mgR (where m is mass of child and R is radius of merry go round). I just don't get how to tell that the net torque in certain problems =0 (and when it doesn't).

Also, I thought for this problem that initially, the merry go round is rotating (has Krot), and the child is not moving w respect to merry go round (K=0). Then, the child is moving (has K trans). So, I don't see how K rotational of the system increases ?
I'm just so confused :(

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carsof said:
Net torque = -mgR
The torque on the child is not mgR. It is generated by friction not by gravity. Regardless of that, your system is child + merry go round. There is no net torque acting on that system because it is isolated (assuming no friction, air resistance, etc.)

From L = Iω and Krot = (1/2)Iω2, you can easily show that Krot = L2/(2I). What happens to I when the child moves towards the center while L stays constant?
 
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