How Does Newton's Third Law Apply When One Block Pushes Another?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Newton's Third Law in a scenario involving two blocks, m1 and m2, on a frictionless surface, with a force F applied to m1. Participants are exploring how the forces between the blocks interact and affect the system's acceleration.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between action and reaction forces, questioning whether the forces are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. There is also consideration of simplifying the problem by treating both blocks as a single unit for acceleration calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the implications of mass differences between the blocks and the role of free-body diagrams in understanding the forces at play. Some guidance has been offered regarding simplifying assumptions, but confusion remains about the action/reaction forces.

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There is mention of a diagram that indicates a significant mass difference between m1 and m2, which may affect participants' understanding of the forces involved. The problem is framed within the context of deriving acceleration, with specific attention to Newton's Laws.

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Problem Type: Derivation

Homework Statement


2 blocks of mass m1 and m2 are placed in contact with each other on a smooth, horizontal surface as in the figure below. A constant force F is applied to m1 as shown.

(a) find the acceleration of the system


Homework Equations


Newton's Laws


The Attempt at a Solution


Picture of the problem:

F
-------> [ m1 ][m2]
=================================

Frictionless surface assumed.


FBD Sketch (are the action and reaction forces equal in magnitude?)

For m1:

Applied force -----> [ m1 ] <----- Reaction force by M2?
Fn and Fg are present.

For m2:

Applied force by m1-----> [m2]
Fn and Fg are present.

Is the reaction force received by m1 pushing m2 equal in magnitude but opposite in direction to the applied force on m1?
 
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Because the problem is only asking you the acceleration of the system, you can safely consider m1 and m2 the "same" block.

Remember, don't confuse yourself with free-body-diagrams. Usually only consider a force for calculation if it results in acceleration. In this case, the only force causing acceleration is the push (or friction, if it specifies).
 
But wait, the picture of my diagram states that the m1 mass is much bigger than the m2 mass. So, how would this work out? I am getting really confused with the action/reaction forces, and I don't know how I would work without them.
 
The force exerted by m2 on m1 is equal (in magnitude) but opposite (in direction) to the force m1 exerts on m2.

I would call this the reaction force.

I would call this the action force.
 

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