How does the law of conservation apply under these condition

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The discussion focuses on applying the law of conservation of energy to a scenario where a 60 kg person swings from a rope after stepping off a building. The calculations show that the tangential speed at the release point (C) is approximately 3.1 m/s, derived from the energy conservation equations. Participants debate the accuracy of the equations used, questioning whether centripetal acceleration should be considered. It is clarified that, under the given conditions of no air resistance and no elasticity in the rope, the conservation of energy principles are applicable. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting the problem statement to ensure accurate calculations.
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A person of 60 kg is holding on a rope of 3m while standing on a the ledge of a building of height 7m. The rope is fixed to a point at roughly eye level 3 m from ledge. The person walks off the building and is swung in a vertical circle. If the person let's go at approximately the same height he starts (C), what is the tangential speed at this point given that the distance from (C) and the ground is 6.5m. Assume no air resistance, no elasticity in rope

Relevant equations:
Ek=(mv^2)/2
Eg=mgh
c=2∏r
v=d/t

The attempt at a solution for releasing rope at (C):
Energy before = Energy after
Ek+Eg=Ek'+Eg'
Ek=0 so,
Eg=Ek'+Eg'
Ek'=Eg-Eg'
(mv^2)/2=mg(h-h')
v=√[2g(h-h')]
=√2x9.8(7-6.5)
=3.1m/s


Are these equations accurate under these conditions or centripetal acceleration missing?
Also, what equations are necessary to deal with changing speed in circular motion?
 
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Law of conservation of what quantity?

Physics has a bunch of conservation laws.
 
Dr. Courtney said:
Law of conservation of what quantity?

Physics has a bunch of conservation laws.
Can you not read what I wrote beneath that part?
 
Henrybar said:
(mv^2)/2=mg(h-h')
v=√[2g(h-h')]
=√2x9.8(7-6.5)
=3.1m/s

That was OK except the problem statement says...

..the person let's go at approximately the same height he starts (C),

Why not set h=h' ?
 
Henrybar said:
Can you not read what I wrote beneath that part?

How successful do expect to be in college if you speak to faculty that way?
 
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Henrybar said:
Are these equations accurate under these conditions or centripetal acceleration missing?
Also, what equations are necessary to deal with changing speed in circular motion?

The equations you used are just fine for this purpose. The problem says to ignore air resistance so there is no loss of energy. Therefore you can apply conservation of energy and equate the change in KE to the change in PE.
 
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