How high is the stone at its highest? Relationships are given

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The problem involves the motion of a rock described by parametric equations for its coordinates over time, specifically focusing on determining the maximum height of the rock.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the curve represented by the y-coordinate equation, identifying it as quadratic. Questions arise regarding the location of the peak and how to find the maximum height.

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Several participants suggest methods to find the maximum height, including using the midpoint between the roots of the quadratic equation and considering the derivative approach. There is a mix of opinions on the best method to use, with some advocating for completing the square as a viable alternative.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the methods they consider appropriate for finding the solution.

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Homework Statement



A rock moves so that its coordinates at the time t given by the relationships

x=25t
y=20t-5t^2

How high is the stone at its highest?

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I got the distance the stone flies (horizental ground) by setting y=0, that gave x=100m
If that is correct, how should I proceed?
 
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What curve is y with regard to t?
 
voko said:
What curve is y with regard to t?

A quadratic curve?
 
Yes it is. You know the two points where it meets the t axis. What can be said about the location of its peak?
 
voko said:
Yes it is. You know the two points where it meets the t axis. What can be said about the location of its peak?

It's above and between the two points.
 
So as you know it's exactly midway, you know the value of t to plug into the equation and get the height.
 
voko said:
So as you know it's exactly midway, you know the value of t to plug into the equation and get the height.

So I take the value of t I got from finding out the flying distance and divide it by 2?

If that is correct I got my answer! Thank you.
 
Well, you could do it the "proper" way by taking the derivative, equating it to zero, etc.

But since you already know the roots of the equation, you can use the fact that the apex of the parabola is always right in the middle.
 
I would not consider taking the derivative to be the "proper" way for a problem like this. Rather, complete the square, so you get something like y= h- (x- a)^2. That is h when x= a, h minus something otherwise. That is, y= h is the maximum value of y.
 

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