How Is Maximum Speed Calculated for a Block on a Vertical Spring?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum speed of a block attached to a vertical spring with a given spring constant and initial conditions. The block is initially pushed down and then given an upward speed, leading to a need to equate kinetic and potential energies. The correct approach involves accounting for gravitational potential energy in addition to the spring's potential energy. The initial calculations provided by the user yield an incorrect maximum speed due to neglecting gravitational effects. The key takeaway is that both gravitational and spring potential energies must be considered to accurately determine the maximum speed of the block.
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Homework Statement



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A spring with spring constant k = 40 N/m and unstretched length of L0 is attached to the ceiling. A block of mass m = 1 kg is hung gently on the end of the spring.


Now the block is pulled down until the total amount the spring is stretched is twice the amount found in part (a). The block is then pushed upward with an initial speed vi = 4 m/s.

What is the maximum speed of the block?

Homework Equations


KE = (1/2)mv^2
PE = (1/2)kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, the answer for part a) they want me to use is .245 m. The way I set this up was:

(1/2)mv^2 = (1/2)mvi^2 + (1/2)kx^2

(1/2)(1)v^2 = (1/2)(1)(4^2) + (1/2)(40)(.49^2)

I did this because the kinetic energy at the maximum speed point should be equal to the potential plus the kinetic energy given by the push. When I solve for v on the left side I get 5.06 m/s but that is wrong.
 
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Hi Dauden! :smile:
Dauden said:
Well, the answer for part a) they want me to use is .245 m. The way I set this up was:

(1/2)mv^2 = (1/2)mvi^2 + (1/2)kx^2

(1/2)(1)v^2 = (1/2)(1)(4^2) + (1/2)(40)(.49^2)

I did this because the kinetic energy at the maximum speed point should be equal to the potential plus the kinetic energy given by the push. When I solve for v on the left side I get 5.06 m/s but that is wrong.

No, KEmax - KE0 = PE0 -PEmax

and you haven't mentioned gravity :wink:
 
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