How Many Basic States Exist for Particles in Divided Spaces?

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The problem involves four distinguishable particles moving freely in a room divided into octants, with questions regarding the number of basic states and the effect of expanding the space into an adjacent room. The subject area pertains to statistical mechanics and the concept of microstates and macrostates.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the definition of a basic state and its relationship to microstates and macrostates. There is an attempt to clarify what constitutes a basic state in the context of the problem.

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The discussion is currently focused on understanding the terminology and concepts involved in the problem. Some participants are questioning the definitions and seeking clarity on the nature of basic states.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the definitions of basic states and microstates, which may impact the understanding of the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem.

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Homework Statement


Four distinguishable particles move freely in a room divided into octants (there are no actual partitions). Let the basic states be given by specifying the octant in which each particle is located.

1. How many basic states are there?
2. The door to this room is opened, allowing the particles to move into an adjacent, identical room, also divided into octants. Now that the amount of space that can be occupied has been doubled, by what factor has the number of basic states increased?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


Honestly, I do not even know how to start this problem. I have read the Mazur chapter 19 Entropy, but I still do not quite understand it.
 
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So let us start by understading the question. What would you say that a basic state is?
 
Orodruin said:
So let us start by understading the question. What would you say that a basic state is?
A basic state, also know as Microstate, is amount of distinguishable particles in a system. Whereas the Macrostate is in a larger scale in describing it by its properties, volume, pressure, temperature, etc.
 
Galactium said:
A basic state, also know as Microstate, is amount of distinguishable particles in a system
No, this is not correct. A basic state is a possible configuration that completely describes all the particles in the system.
 

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