How to calculate the initial rate of dischrage of a capacitor.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial rate of discharge of a capacitor connected to a digital multimeter (DMM) with a specified internal resistance. The capacitor has been charged to a certain voltage, and participants are exploring how to determine the discharge rate in micro-Coulombs per second.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for calculating current and its relationship to discharge rate. There are attempts to derive the initial discharge rate using Ohm's law and the relationship between charge, current, and time. Some participants express confusion over the calculations and the correct interpretation of the formulas.

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Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct interpretation of resistance and current calculations. Participants are actively questioning their assumptions and calculations, with some expressing uncertainty about their results. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the units and relationships between voltage, current, and charge. Participants are also addressing potential errors in their calculations and the need for clarification on the equations used.

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Homework Statement



A) A DMM with its 10M(ohms symbol) internal resistance is connected to a 9.9 microF capacitor that has been charged to 10 V. Calculate the intial rate of discharge of the capacitor through the DMM in micro-Coulombs per second. Hint: You do not need exponentials for this calculations.

B) Assuming this initial rate of discharge in the question above is maintained for 3 seconds, by what percentage would the capacitor be discharged?


Homework Equations



How do I calculate the initial rate of discharge? My lab did not go over it but I Found this formula online but it only goes over time.

T = ( C * V ) / I


The Attempt at a Solution



I = V/R
= (10 / 10
= 1

T = ( C * V ) / I
= (3.9 * 10) / 1
= 39 seconds

So the rate is .1 microF a second?
And if it were discharged for 3 seconds it would be .3 which is 7.6% of the charge discharged.


I am lost! Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
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mike88si said:

Homework Statement



A) A DMM with its 10M(ohms symbol) internal resistance is connected to a 9.9 microF capacitor that has been charged to 10 V. Calculate the intial rate of discharge of the capacitor through the DMM in micro-Coulombs per second. Hint: You do not need exponentials for this calculations.

B) Assuming this initial rate of discharge in the question above is maintained for 3 seconds, by what percentage would the capacitor be discharged?


Homework Equations



How do I calculate the initial rate of discharge? My lab did not go over it but I Found this formula online but it only goes over time.

T = ( C * V ) / I


The Attempt at a Solution



I = V/R
= (10 / 10
= 1

T = ( C * V ) / I
= (3.9 * 10) / 1
= 39 seconds

So the rate is .1 microF a second?
And if it were discharged for 3 seconds it would be .3 which is 7.6% of the charge discharged.


I am lost! Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

You are close when you say I = 10V / 10Meg Ohms (you wrote 10 Ohms, BTW).

After fixing the missing "Meg", you would get I = 1uA

Now you need to convert that into coulombs per second. What is the relationship between Amps and Coulombs per second?
 
mike88si said:

Homework Statement



A) A DMM with its 10M(ohms symbol) internal resistance is connected to a 3.9 microF capacitor that has been charged to 10 V. Calculate the intial rate of discharge of the capacitor through the DMM in micro-Coulombs per second. Hint: You do not need exponentials for this calculations.

B) Assuming this initial rate of discharge in the question above is maintained for 3 seconds, by what percentage would the capacitor be discharged?


Homework Equations



How do I calculate the initial rate of discharge? My lab did not go over it but I Found this formula online but it only goes over time.

T = ( C * V ) / I


The Attempt at a Solution



I = V/R
= (10 / 10
= 1

T = ( C * V ) / I
= (3.9 * 10) / 1
= 39 seconds

So the rate is .1 microF a second?
And if it were discharged for 3 seconds it would be .3 which is 7.6% of the charge discharged.


I am lost! Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

berkeman said:
You are close when you say I = 10V / 10Meg Ohms (you wrote 10 Ohms, BTW).

After fixing the missing "Meg", you would get I = 1uA

Now you need to convert that into coulombs per second. What is the relationship between Amps and Coulombs per second?


The relationship between coulombs per second and amps is that one Amp is one coulomb per second. I think I need this equation:

Q= I * t

t = Q / I also I = Q/t

So to find Q

C = Q/V so we get Q = CV

Q = ( 3.9 * 10^-6 * 10 V ) I = 10/10*10^6
= 3.9*10^-5 couloumbs = 1*10^-6

t = Q / I
= 3.9*10^-5 couloumbs / 1 * 10^-6 couloumbs/second
= 39 seconds

I just realized that what I just did is pretty much the same as above.
 
Better is I = \frac{dQ}{dt}
 
thanks. i think i got it. turned it in yesterday.
 

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