How to Derive Momentum Equations for Alpha Particles in Collisions?

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The discussion revolves around deriving momentum equations for alpha particles colliding with gas atoms in a cloud chamber. The problem involves analyzing the velocities of the scattered alpha particles and recoiling gas atoms post-collision, with specific angles of deflection considered.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum and energy principles. The original poster attempts to resolve momentum equations both horizontally and vertically, while others question how to incorporate energy into the analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different conservation laws and their applications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinetic energy formulas and the introduction of a symbol for the initial speed of the alpha particle.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the initial velocity of the alpha particle being negligible, and participants are considering how to effectively apply conservation of energy alongside momentum in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Fast moving α particles of mass m make collisions in a cloud chamber with gas atoms of mass M and negligible initial velocity. After a collision, the velocities of the scattered α particles and the recoiling gas atoms are v and V respectively, the former being inclined at an angle θ and the latter at an angle φ to the original α particle direction
show that 2vcos(θ+φ)=(1-M/m)V

Homework Equations


p=mv
cos(θ+φ)=cos(θ)cos(φ)-sin(θ)sin(φ)

The Attempt at a Solution


Resolving horizontally i got [1] ∑p = mvcos(θ)+MVcos(φ) and vertically i got [2] mvsin(θ)-MVsin(φ). i squared both equations and added them together to get m^2v^2+M^2V^2+2mvMVcos(θ+φ)=(Σp)^2. I'm not sure how to work out the initial velocity
 
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Is there anything in addition to conservation of momentum that you can use?
 
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Energy of the system?
 
GayYoda said:
Energy of the system?

Yes, conservation of energy.
 
how do i apply energy ?
 
GayYoda said:
how do i apply energy ?

First, I think it would be simpler if you used a symbol for the initial speed of the ##\alpha## particle: ##u## seems a good choice to me.

Second, you must the formula for the kinetic energy of a particle.
 

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