How to find initial velocity without being given time

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To find the initial velocity of a projectile launched at an angle of 26.5 degrees from a height of 1.11m with a range of 2.331m, the velocity components were split into horizontal and vertical. The horizontal component was expressed as v1x = v1cos(26.5), and time was isolated using the range equation. The vertical motion was analyzed using the kinematic equation, leading to the conclusion that the initial velocity v1 is approximately 5.35 m/s. The time of flight was calculated to be around 0.49 seconds. The discussion also highlighted variations in terminology for initial velocity and distance across different regions.
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Homework Statement


a projectile is launched at an angle of 26.5 above the horizontal at a height of 1.11m. the range is 2.331m. find the initial velocity and time given that acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2.

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first, I split the velocity into its components:

v1x = v1cos26.5
v1y = v1cos26.5

then,
v1x = dx/t
v1cos26.5 = dx/t
rearranged to isolate for time since it is not given:
t = dx/ v1cos26.5

also, using the kinematic equation: v2y^2 = v1y^2 + 2at
and since at the projectile's max, v2y = 0m/s and since the max occurs at t*(0.5) ***(but I think this is inaccurate because the projectile does not land at the same height in which it was released)

so,
v2y^2 = v1y^2 + 2at
0 = v1y^2 + 2(9.8)(t/2)

then isolate for t again,

t = 2(v1y)^2 / 4.9
or
t = 2(v1sin26.5)^2 / 4.9

then make each isolated time equation equal one another:

dx/v1cos26.5 = 2(v1sin26.5)^2 / 4.9

then isolate for v1:
v1 = sqrt( 4.9*dx / (sin26.5cos26.5) )
since dx = 2.331,
v1 = sqrt( 4.9*2.331/ (sin26.5cos26.5) )
v1= 5.35m/s

Therefore, v1 = 5.35m/s

then for time,
v1x = dx/t
t = dx/v1cos26.5
= 2.331 / 5.35cos(26.5)
= 0.487s

Therefore, t = 0.49s
 
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Qwerty123! said:
using the kinematic equation: v2y^2 = v1y^2 + 2at
Hi Qwerty123!. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

The correct equation is v2 = u2 + 2as :(

See how you go now.
 
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Thanks for replying. :). I'm not familiar with the variables u and s?
 
Qwerty123! said:
Thanks for replying. :). I'm not familiar with the variables u and s?
It's a common convention to let u be the initial velocity and s represent distance ("s"pace I suppose).
 
NascentOxygen said:
Hi Qwerty123!

The correct equation is v2 = u2 + 2as :(

See how you go now.
Maybe you'd like it as: v2y^2 = v1y^2 + 2.a.d
where that last term involves the y component of acceleration times distance in y direction.

Check your course notes.
 
gneill said:
It's a common convention to let u be the initial velocity and s represent distance ("s"pace I suppose).
This actually varies between countries and even states. For example in Victoria, Australia, x is used for distances. However Queensland uses s.

I can't remember where I saw it but there's a webpage out there that lists the most common ones.
 
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