How to find the equation of this tangent?

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a tangent line to the curve defined by F(x)=sqrt(-2x^2 +2x+4) that passes through the point A(-2,0). Participants are exploring the implications of the domain of the function and the conditions under which the tangent line can be determined.

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  • Participants discuss the domain of the function and its implications for the tangent line. Some express confusion about how to proceed since point A is not within the domain of F(x). Others suggest that the tangent line does not need to be at point A but must pass through it.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants clarifying the requirements of the tangent line and others questioning the assumptions about the domain. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem, noting that the tangent line can be defined at a different point on the curve.

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Participants note that the function does not exist for x < -1, which includes point A. This raises questions about how to define the tangent line under these constraints.

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Homework Statement



F(x)=sqrt(-2x^2 +2x+4)
1.discuss variation of f and draw (c)
2.find the equation of tangent line to (c) that passes through point A(-2,0)

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved first part I found the domain of definition and f'(x) and I drew (c) but in the second part A does not belong to the domain of definition so i can't use f'(x) what should i do? Please help.
 
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Jeanclaud said:
I solved first part I found the domain of definition and f'(x) and I drew (c) but in the second part A does not belong to the domain of definition so i can't use f'(x) what should i do? Please help.
What is the equation of a line that is tangent to the curve at x?
 
haruspex said:
What is the equation of a line that is tangent to the curve at x?
Y=f'(a)(x-a)+f(a) at point of abscissa a
 
Jeanclaud said:
Y=f'(a)(x-a)+f(a) at point of abscissa a
Right. So substitute for f and f' in there. Plug in the fact that this tangent is to pass through A. What equation does that give you?
 
haruspex, that is not Jeanclaude's point. -2x^2+ 2x+ 4= -2(x+ 1)(x- 2) is positive only for x between -1 and 2. It is negative for al x< -1 and so \sqrt{-2x^2+ 2x+ 4} does NOT EXIST for x< -1 and, in particular, at x= -2.

Jeanclaude, the fact that -2 is not in the domain means there is NO function value at x= -2 so no graph there and NO tangent line
 
The wording of this problem is a little tricky.

1. f(x) certainly doesn't exist at point A.
2. The problem statement asks for the equation of a line tangent to f(x) which passes thru point A. It does not specify that the line is tangent to f(x) at point A, merely that the tangent line must pass thru this point and be tangent to f(x) at some other unspecified point.
 
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Oh, right, I misread the problem. Thanks, SteamKing.

The derivative of F is \frac{1}{2}(-2x^2+ 2x+ 4)^{-1/2}(-4x+ 2). The equation of the tangent line at any point (x_0, \sqrt{-x_0^2+ 2x_0+ 4}) is y= \frac{1}{2}(-2x_0^2+ 2x_0+ 4)^{-1/2}(-4x_0+ 2)(x- x_0)+ \sqrt{-x_0^2+ 2x_0+ 4}). Saying that goes through (-2, 0) means that we must have
0= \frac{1}{2}(-2x_0^2+ 2x_0+ 4)^{-1/2}(-4x_0+ 2)(-2- x_0)+ \sqrt{-x_0^2+ 2x_0+ 4})
Solve that equation for x_0.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
haruspex, that is not Jeanclaude's point. -2x^2+ 2x+ 4= -2(x+ 1)(x- 2) is positive only for x between -1 and 2. It is negative for al x< -1 and so \sqrt{-2x^2+ 2x+ 4} does NOT EXIST for x< -1 and, in particular, at x= -2.

Jeanclaude, the fact that -2 is not in the domain means there is NO function value at x= -2 so no graph there and NO tangent line
Funny, I thought perhaps JC had misread the question that way, but then just decided he didn't know how to find a tangent through a point that is not on the curve. Thank you SteamKing for covering the misreading option.
 
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Homework Statement



F(x)=sqrt(-2x^2 +2x+4)
1.discuss variation of f and draw (c)
2.find the equation of tangent line to (c) that passes through point A(-2,0)

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved first part I found the domain of definition and f'(x) and I drew (c) but in the second part A does not belong to the domain of definition so i can't use f'(x) what should i do? Please help.

The point A is on a tangent line to the curve ##y = F(x)##; it need not be in the domain of definition of ##F##. In other words, nobody is saying that we want the tangent at the point ##x = -2##; they are just saying that the line which is tangent to the curve at some point should also pass through the point A = (-2,0).
 
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