How to Find the Wind Component Parallel to a Dash Vector?

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To find the wind component parallel to the dash vector, the discussion emphasizes using the formula w · v / ||v||, where w is the wind velocity and v is the dash vector. Participants clarify that the goal is to determine the component of the wind speed that aligns with the direction of the dash, not to create a new vector. The importance of understanding vector projections is highlighted, specifically how to apply the scalar product to find the desired component. The conversation concludes with one participant confirming their understanding of the solution. This method effectively addresses the problem of calculating the wind's influence on the dash.
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Homework Statement



A 100 meter dash is run on a track in the direction of the vector v = 4i + 7j. The wind velocity w is 5i + j km/hr. The rules say that a legal wind speed measured in the direction of the dash must not exceed 5 km/hr.

Find the component of w which is parallel to v.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea to solve this problem
 
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-EquinoX- said:

Homework Statement



A 100 meter dash is run on a track in the direction of the vector v = 4i + 7j. The wind velocity w is 5i + j km/hr. The rules say that a legal wind speed measured in the direction of the dash must not exceed 5 km/hr.

Find the component of w which is parallel to v.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea to solve this problem
You must have some idea. Which operation gives to the component of one vector that is parallel to another?
 
it's parallel to one another if it's angle between them is 0 right?

so therefore using the geometric of vectors:

v . w = |v| * |w|, right?
 
-EquinoX- said:
it's parallel to one another if it's angle between them is 0 right?

so therefore using the geometric of vectors:

v . w = |v| * |w|, right?

Sure, if v . w = |v| * |w| then w and v are parallel; but that's not what Hootenanny was asking.

Suppose you want to find 'the component of w' that is parallel to v...how would you do that?
 
-EquinoX- said:
it's parallel to one another if it's angle between them is 0 right?

so therefore using the geometric of vectors:

v . w = |v| * |w|, right?
That is correct. However, it is perhaps more useful to note that:

\mathbf{v}\cdot\left(\frac{\mathbf{w}}{\left\|\mathbf{w}\right\|}\right) = \left|\mathbf{v}\right|\cos\theta

That is, if u is a unit vector then the scalar product v.u gives the projection of v in the direction u.

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gabbagabbahey said:
but that's not what Halls was asking.
 
hmmm...so how do I apply this to the question?
 
gabbagabbahey said:
but that's not what Hootenanny was asking.

o:) o:) o:)
 
Is this question asking for a new wind speed/vector which is parallel to v
 
-EquinoX- said:
Is this question asking for a new wind speed/vector which is parallel to v
No. The question is asking for the component of w that is parallel to v. Can you use the hints I have you in post number 5 to solve this problem?
 
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Hootenanny said:
No. The question is asking for the component of w that is parallel to v. Can you use the hints I have you in post number 5 to solve this problem?

No, I don't...
 
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-EquinoX- said:
No, I don't...
I don't know how I can make it clearer without explicitly giving you the answer. Pay particular attention the the last paragraph in on of my previous posts.
Hootenanny said:
That is correct. However, it is perhaps more useful to note that:

\mathbf{v}\cdot\left(\frac{\mathbf{w}}{\left\|\mathbf{w}\right\|}\right) = \left|\mathbf{v}\right|\cos\theta

That is, if u is a unit vector then the scalar product v.u gives the projection of v in the direction u.
 
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what is u related to my question?
 
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why is it v . w/||W|| not w . v/||v||
 
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-EquinoX- said:
why is it v . w/||W|| not w . v/||v||

v . w/||W|| gives the component of v parallel to w.

w . v/||v|| gives the component of w parallel to v.

Since you are trying to find the component of the wind speed w parallel to the velocity v; you will indeed want to use w . v/||v|| for your problem.
 
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gabbagabbahey said:
v . w/||W|| gives the component of v parallel to w.

w . v/||v|| gives the component of w parallel to v.

Since you are trying to find the component of the wind speed w parallel to the velocity v; you will indeed want to use w . v/||v|| for your problem.

ok thanks! I got it now
 
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