How to size a generator needed for an electric motor

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This discussion focuses on sizing a generator for an electric bicycle equipped with a 6,000-watt motor, typically operating at 3,000 watts. The user intends to integrate a small gasoline engine, specifically a 35cc 4-stroke motor producing 1.4 hp at 8,000 rpms, to create a generator that can charge the bike's batteries or power the motor directly. The goal is to ensure that the generator's output, combined with the electric motor, exceeds the motor's requirements by a factor of 1.1 to 1.2, optimizing the bike's functionality while adhering to local regulations in Shanghai.

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I will buy an electric bicycle in a couple of months and want to modify it. I will install a motor that has a max rating of 6,000 watts - common use is about 3k watts. I am also looking for a small, lightweight gasoline engine to connect to another motor - to make a small generator - so that I can use the generator to charge the batteries when they are low, or simply to power the electric motor on the ebike. You can think of this bike as being a tri-brid, being able to pedal it, use the battery/motor combination or use the generator/motor combination. The motor I will use on the bike was designed to be used in r/c aircraft and is often used now in ebikes. In the ebike it turns at about 4,800 rpms at 48v. I saw a gasoline powered 35cc 4 stroke motor that put out 1.4 hp at about 8,000 rpms. It weighs about 9 pounds. I would love to find a small rotary motor, weighing about 5 pounds :)

I would like to be able to find a gasoline engine + electric motor combination to make this generator so that

electricity produced by gasoline engine + electric motor = (1.1 or 1.2) times the electricity needed for the motor on my ebike.

Can someone point me to the equations and principles I would need? also any advice that you might have?

Thanks in advance
 
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Yes, in a way it wasteful but I am doing it to stay legal with the local laws. In Shanghai, it is almost impossible for a foreigner to get a license plate for a motor driven vehicle. If I made a hybrid ala prius I would simply use the gas engine to turn the wheels at times, but then it becomes a "motor drive cycle" and cannot legally be licensed and used on the streets. With my idea, the bike is always either an electric motor driven cycle or a pedal driven cycle so I am within the law.
 
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