Hydrogen emission spectrum calculation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the hydrogen emission spectrum, specifically focusing on determining the principal quantum number (n) associated with energy transitions in hydrogen. Participants are exploring the relationships between frequency, wavelength, and energy levels in the context of the hydrogen atom.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use formulas relating frequency and energy to find the quantum number n but encounters a repeated result. They question their application of the energy equations and seek clarification on their approach.

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Some participants provide guidance by questioning the original poster's use of variables and suggesting that there may be a misunderstanding regarding the energy levels involved. There is an acknowledgment of the specific transitions related to the Balmer series, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are discussing the assumptions behind the equations used, particularly the values of n for the energy levels and the specific series of hydrogen lines being analyzed. There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the application of the equations to different series of transitions.

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Homework Statement
The hydrogen spectrum contains a blue line with a wavelength of 434 nm. Photons of blue light are emitted when hydrogen's electron drops from the fifth energy level to a lower energy level What is the lower energy level?
Relevant Equations
E = (-13.6eV/n^2) - (-13.6eV/n^2)
1/λ = R(1/4 - 1/n^2)
E = hf
h = Planck's constant
I've first method I tried was using f = v/λ to find the frequency, then E = hf to find the energy and then using E = (-13.6eV/n^2) - (-13.6eV/n^2) to rearrange and solve for the unknown n. However I got 5, the same as the original entry level.

I also tried using 1/λ = R(1/4 - 1/n^2) to solve for n and got 5 again. I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong, but I think it has something to do with the way I used E = hf to get the energy and used that value for E in E = (-13.6eV/n^2) - (-13.6eV/n^2). Any hints?
 
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What is n in your equation for E? As it stands E ≡ 0. There should be two n values, one for the upper and one for the lower level. Try putting n1 = 5 and calculating n2.
Your equation for 1/λ should be analogous. Where does the term 1/4 come from? Is it assuming n2 = 2? Perhaps you then get n1=5 because the right answer for n2 happens to be 2.
 
oops, yes I've worked it out now. thanks
 
Check: the visible lines of H (the Balmer series) are due to the transitions that end on n=2. Perhaps your 1/λ equation was specifically for this series, rather than generally for all H lines.
 
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