Hydrostatic forces on a hinged gate

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on calculating the hydrostatic force on a hinged gate, with the user attempting to set up an integral to find the force on the hinge. They arrive at a force vector of -30720 i + 23040 j, but note a discrepancy with the book's answer. Another participant suggests that considering moments about the non-hinged end (point A) could simplify the calculation. Additionally, they recommend a force balance approach using horizontal and vertical components to analyze the fluid's interaction with the gate. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper setup and understanding of hydrostatic forces in fluid mechanics.
member 428835
I'm trying to just find the hydrostatic force on the hinge of the gate in the image attached, and while not labeled, the thickness out of the page is ##w=5##. My thoughts are to set up this integral $$\vec{F}_p = \iint \rho g y \hat{n}\, dA = w \rho g \int_0^8 y \left( \frac{-dx\hat{i}+dy\hat{j}}{\sqrt{dx^2+dy^2}} \right)\, \sqrt{dx^2+dy^2}\\
= w \rho g \int_0^8 y \left(-dx\hat{i}+dy\hat{j} \right)\\
= w \rho g \int_0^8 y \left(y'(x)\hat{j}-1\hat{i} \right) \, dx\\
=5\cdot 64 \int_0^8 \left(9 + \frac{3 x}{4}\right)(\frac{3}{4}\hat{j}-\hat{i})\, dx\\
=-30720 \hat{i} + 23040 \hat{j}$$
where the magnitude of the last expression gives me the correct answer of the magnitude of ##\vec{F}_p=38,400## lbf. So when finding the force on the hinge I would say it is simply ##-30720 \hat{i} + 23040 \hat{j}## but the book says something else. Where am I going wrong?
 

Attachments

  • hinge.png
    hinge.png
    9.6 KB · Views: 1,261
Physics news on Phys.org
joshmccraney said:
Where am I going wrong?

Some of the force on the gate is supported by the non hinged end (at A). Taking moments about point A is probably the quickest way to find the force on the hinge.
 
  • Like
Likes member 428835
Thanks, your response makes perfect sense! Could you help me set up this integral if the water was instead below the gate?
 
Problem in #1 can be solved in a few lines using basic trig and simple arithmetic ?
 
Josh,

What Nidum is referring to is this: Draw a dashed horizontal line from point A to the left, and draw a dashed vertical line from point B vertically upward. Then consider the fluid contained in the region between the gate and the dashed lines. Do a force balance on this fluid in the horizontal and vertical directions. This will quickly give you the horizontal and vertical components of the force exerted by the gate on the fluid (and, by Newton's 3rd law, the fluid on the gate).
 
Hi there, im studying nanoscience at the university in Basel. Today I looked at the topic of intertial and non-inertial reference frames and the existence of fictitious forces. I understand that you call forces real in physics if they appear in interplay. Meaning that a force is real when there is the "actio" partner to the "reactio" partner. If this condition is not satisfied the force is not real. I also understand that if you specifically look at non-inertial reference frames you can...
I have recently been really interested in the derivation of Hamiltons Principle. On my research I found that with the term ##m \cdot \frac{d}{dt} (\frac{dr}{dt} \cdot \delta r) = 0## (1) one may derivate ##\delta \int (T - V) dt = 0## (2). The derivation itself I understood quiet good, but what I don't understand is where the equation (1) came from, because in my research it was just given and not derived from anywhere. Does anybody know where (1) comes from or why from it the...
Back
Top