Ideal Gas Carnot engine refrigeration

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The discussion centers on the relationship between heat absorbed and rejected by reservoirs in a Carnot engine, specifically focusing on the heat pump's operation. The equation Qh/Qc = Th/Tc is confirmed as correct, indicating the ratio of heat transfer is proportional to the temperatures of the hot and cold reservoirs. A participant expresses uncertainty about their derived formula for Qh, which is Qh = Wθh/(θh - θc), but it is validated by others in the thread. The importance of understanding the coefficient of performance (COP) is highlighted for a more formal grasp of the concepts. The conversation concludes with reassurance that the participant's calculations align with the principles of thermodynamics.
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Homework Statement


What is the relationship between the heat absorbed and rejected by the reservoirs and their temperature. If a heat pump is used to transfer heat what is the rate at which heat is added to the hot reservoir in terms of the temperatures of the reservoir and the work done by the pump?


Homework Equations



Answer to the first part is \frac{Q_{h}}{Q_{c}}=\frac{\theta_{h}}{\theta_{c}}

The Attempt at a Solution



I got a solution of Q_{h}=\frac{W\theta_{h}}{\theta_{h}-\theta_{c}} however I am very unsure of this and think I went about it the wrong way. Not even sure I have answered the question. Without a correct answer I can not do the rest of the question.
 
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supermanii said:
I got a solution of Q_{h}=\frac{W\theta_{h}}{\theta_{h}-\theta_{c}} however I am very unsure of this and think I went about it the wrong way. Not even sure I have answered the question. Without a correct answer I can not do the rest of the question.
Looks fine to me. :approve: (I'm assuming you are using the symbol θ to represent temperature.)

But if you'd like a more formal discussion on the subject, look in your textbook or coursework for coefficient of performance (COP). It will explain the concept probably better than what I can do here. :smile:
 
supermanii said:
I got a solution of Q_{h}=\frac{W\theta_{h}}{\theta_{h}-\theta_{c}} however I am very unsure of this and think I went about it the wrong way.
Your answer is correct. Here's why: Since the system returns to its initial state after a complete cycle, there is no change internal energy so \Delta Q = |Q_h|-|Q_c| = <br /> \Delta U + W = 0 + W = W.

If you are using a Carnot heat pump, Qh/Qc = Th/Tc. So Qh/W = Qh/(|Qh|-|Qc|) = Th/(Th-Tc)

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