If the divergence of a vector field is zero

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The discussion revolves around the properties of vector fields, specifically focusing on the implications of a vector field having zero divergence. Participants explore the relationship between divergence and curl, and the conditions under which a vector field can be expressed as the curl of another vector field.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the general property that the divergence of the curl of any vector field is zero, questioning how to identify a specific vector field given only the condition of zero divergence. There is also exploration of the implications of being provided with a specific vector field and the subsequent steps to find a corresponding vector field whose curl matches the given one.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of vector fields and the conditions necessary to derive one from another. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of equations based on the curl, but there remains uncertainty about solving the resulting system of partial differential equations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of needing additional information, such as boundary conditions, to uniquely determine the vector field. The complexity of solving the system of equations derived from the curl is also acknowledged, indicating a potential barrier to progress in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


If the divergence of a vector field is zero, I know that that means that it is the curl of some vector. How do I find that vector?


Homework Equations


Just the equations for divergence and curl. In TeX:
\nabla\cdot u=\frac{\partial u_x}{\partial x}+\frac{\partial u_y}{\partial y}+\frac{\partial u_z}{\partial z}
and the equivalent for curl.


The Attempt at a Solution


I really don't know at all how to find an answer.
 
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The divergence of the curl of ANY vector is =0. You can't find that "vector" without some more information, eg boundary conditions.
 
adamabel said:

Homework Statement


If the divergence of a vector field is zero, I know that that means that it is the curl of some vector. How do I find that vector?
the statement: \nabla\cdot(\nabla\times A)=0 is true for all vector field A. So without any additional info, you just have an arbitrary vector field.
 
So when a problem gives a vector field where it's divergence is zero, and it asks to find a vector field such that the curl of the vector field is the given vector field, I can just choose any vector field?
 
No, those responses were to what you had posted before- that all you knew about the vector field was that its divergence was equal to 0. You did not say you were given a vector field that happened to have divergence equal to 0!

If you are given a vector field, say, u(x,y,z)i+ v(x,y,z)j+ w(x,y,z)k with divergence 0, Then write out the formula for curl of a vector field and set the components equal:
\frac{\partial h}{\partial y}-\frac{\partial g}{\partial z}= u
\frac{\partial f}{\partial z}- \frac{\partial h}{\partial x}= v
\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}- \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}= w

Solve those for f, g, h,
 
I already knew that; I suppose I just didn't write it out clearly enough. But what was confusing me was how to solve for those. It seems like that is a system of PDEs, and I have no idea how to solve those.
 

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