jim hardy said:
"""Therefore, PF = V_load_rms/V_source_rms...""
That is a very non-standard use of the term "power factor".
And i don't quite understand it...In the standard terminology "Power Factor" refers to the difference between (Volts X amps) and (Watts) as you suggested,
but the reason they're not equal is not because of unequal volts or amps,
instead they're not equal because volts and amps are not necessarily in phase.
Watts is Volts X Amps X cosine(angle between volts and amps)..
Now in a resistive load volts and amps ARE in phase, so angle between them is zero, and cosine(0) = 1.
Which makes V X A = Watts.
Power factor is cosine(angle betwen V and A) and is 1 for pure resistive load.
What you have defined as "power factor" would be more correctly called "duty cycle", and that fits with your idea of switching load on and off.
One of us is confused. For any pure resistance load like a heater , KVA = KW because there's no phase shift.
And as you pointed out, since I (load) = I(source), KW(load) will = KW(source) because when current is zero , Volts X Amps = 0 in both of them . So even YOUR power factor P(load)/VA(source) will be one.
(AHA - that's it - zero in denominator while switch is open. )
Can you figure out which of us is the confused one and clarify?
thanks, old jim
Hi jim,
Peoples sometimes really don't give a damn, if they feel the other person is talking nonsense or simply if they couldn't quite get what they want to tell. I really appreciate the attitude you have shown here.
But I am pretty sure, you are at the confusion here.
The thing in
Bold in above quote would only apply if the circuit contained only linear elements like resisters, inductors, and capacitors. However, we have here, a Resistance which is placed behind a switch. And that makes this circuit non-linear, and that makes your statement inapplicable.
To demonstrate how switching load gives poor power factor, let's look at a simple half-wave rectifier supplied Resistive load.
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AC........|
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Say, AC source voltage = 10 V peak
Diode drop = 0V
Heater resistance = 10 ohms
So, during the positive half cycle, current flows and is
in-phase with source voltage and has a peak of 1A.
During the -ve half cylce, current = 0.
Since in a whole cycle the current isn't sinusoidal, we can't simply apply P = V*I*cos(phi) formula, because phi is defined only for sinusoidal current.
So, let's work out the power factor of the load in this configuration.
Whatever be the wave-shape of current, the power dissipated in resistive load is Irms^2*R
So, in our case, I is sinusoidal for +ve half cylce with amplitude 1A and 0 for negative half cycle.
So, we can compute Irms = 0.5A. (college mathematics)
So, P = Irms^2*R = 0.5^2*R = 2.5 watts.
Now, VA input from source is simply, VA = Vsource_rms*I_source_rms
Obviously, I_source_rms = I_load_rms = 0.5A
Vsource_rms = 7.07 Volts (for 10V peak sinusidal wave)
Therefore, VA = 7.07*0.5 = 3.535
Thus we have, pf = 2.5/3.535 = 0.707
In another way, P_load = Irms^2*R = V_load_rms*Irms
Also, VA = V_source_rms*Irms (remember, I_load_rms = I_source_rms = Irms)
Thus, pf = V_load_rms / V_source_rms
I hope I made sense.
Thanks.