Initial Velocity of Second Rail Car in Inelastic Collision

In summary, the question asks for the initial speed of the second rail car in a collision with another rail car. The conservation law for momentum is applied, causing some velocities to be negative. However, when considering speed as a pure magnitude, the answer cannot be negative.
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Homework Statement


A Rail car with a mass= 27000kg's moving at 4m/s collides with another rail car with mass 80,000kg that was moving towards the first. After the collision, both cars come to a complete stop, what was the initial speed of the second rail car?

Homework Equations


m1v1+m2v2=(m1+v1)v'

The Attempt at a Solution


This was a seemingly simple test question, but while most of the class got the same absolute value answer of 1.33m/s, half of us got -1.3m/s and the other half +1.3m/s. Logically the second car hand a negative momentum, but algebraically it seems like a positive answer is correct. Any clarification?
 
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Jay G. said:

Homework Statement


A Rail car with a mass= 27000kg's moving at 4m/s collides with another rail car with mass 80,000kg that was moving towards the first. After the collision, both cars come to a complete stop, what was the initial speed of the second rail car?

Homework Equations


m1v1+m2v2=(m1+v1)v'

The Attempt at a Solution


This was a seemingly simple test question, but while most of the class got the same absolute value answer of 1.33m/s, half of us got -1.3m/s and the other half +1.3m/s. Logically the second car hand a negative momentum, but algebraically it seems like a positive answer is correct. Any clarification?
You are asked for a speed, but the conservation law applies to velocities. If, as is generally advisable, you define the positive direction to be the same for all parallel velocities, displacements and accelerations then it will happen that some velocities will be negative. Speeds, however, are generally taken to be pure magnitudes, so are not quoted with negative values.
 

1. What is the definition of initial velocity in an inelastic collision?

The initial velocity in an inelastic collision refers to the velocity of an object before it collides with another object and they stick together. It is usually represented by the symbol 'u'.

2. How is the initial velocity of the second rail car calculated in an inelastic collision?

The initial velocity of the second rail car can be calculated using the conservation of momentum principle, where the total momentum of the two objects before the collision is equal to the total momentum after the collision. This can be expressed as m1u1 + m2u2 = (m1 + m2)v, where m represents mass and v represents velocity.

3. Are there any factors that can affect the initial velocity of the second rail car in an inelastic collision?

Yes, there are several factors that can affect the initial velocity of the second rail car in an inelastic collision. These include the mass and initial velocity of the first rail car, the coefficient of restitution (which determines how much kinetic energy is lost during the collision), and any external forces acting on the system.

4. Can the initial velocity of the second rail car be greater than the initial velocity of the first rail car in an inelastic collision?

No, the initial velocity of the second rail car cannot be greater than the initial velocity of the first rail car in an inelastic collision. This is because the two objects are sticking together and moving as one after the collision, so their combined velocity cannot exceed the initial velocity of the first object.

5. How is the concept of initial velocity in an inelastic collision applied in real-world scenarios?

The concept of initial velocity in an inelastic collision is applied in various real-world scenarios, such as car accidents, sports collisions, and industrial accidents involving moving objects. It helps in determining the outcome of the collision and can be used to analyze the forces involved in the collision.

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