Integrability of a differential condition

In summary, the author discusses the condition and implication of dq_3 = B_1 dq_1 + B_2 dq_2 in relation to the derivatives \frac{\partial B_1}{\partial q_2} = \frac{\partial B_2}{\partial q_1}. This condition is important in determining the integrability of dq_3 and can be checked using the equation \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial q_1 \partial q_2}=\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial q_2 \partial q_1}.
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I'm reading "The variational principles of mechanics", written by C. Lanczos and he said that, if one have the condition [itex]dq_3 = B_1 dq_1 + B_2 dq_2 [/itex] and one want to know if there is a finite relation between the [itex]q_i[/itex], on account the given condition, one must have the condition [tex] \frac{\partial B_1}{\partial q_2} = \frac{\partial B_2}{\partial q_1}[/tex].

What I don't understand is how the condition on the differentials imply the equality between the derivatives above.
 
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The point is, under certain conditions(which are always satisfied in physics), we have [itex] \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial q_1 \partial q_2}=\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial q_2 \partial q_1} [/itex]. Now for [itex] dq_3 [/itex] to be integrable, there should be some f such that [itex] B_1=\frac{\partial f}{\partial q_1} [/itex] and [itex] B_2=\frac{\partial f}{\partial q_2} [/itex]. But how can we check that? We can use the equation I mentioned:
[itex] \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial q_1 \partial q_2}=\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial q_2 \partial q_1} \Rightarrow \frac{\partial B_2}{\partial q_1}=\frac{\partial B_1}{\partial q_2} [/itex].
 
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Thanks, Shyan! :D
 

Related to Integrability of a differential condition

1. What is the definition of "integrability" in terms of a differential condition?

Integrability refers to the ability of a differential condition to be solved or integrated using mathematical techniques. It is a measure of how easily a differential condition can be manipulated and solved.

2. How can one determine if a differential condition is integrable?

There is no definitive method for determining the integrability of a differential condition. It often depends on the specific form of the condition and the techniques available for solving it. However, some common techniques for determining integrability include checking for exactness, using integrating factors, and analyzing the coefficients of the differential condition.

3. What are some examples of integrable differential conditions?

Some examples of integrable differential conditions include linear differential equations, separable differential equations, and homogeneous differential equations. These types of conditions have well-known techniques for solving them and can often be integrated using these techniques.

4. Are all differential conditions integrable?

No, not all differential conditions are integrable. Some conditions may be impossible to solve using known techniques, or they may require advanced mathematical methods that are not commonly used.

5. How does the integrability of a differential condition relate to its solutions?

The integrability of a differential condition is directly related to its solutions. If a condition is integrable, it means that there are methods available for solving it and obtaining a solution. However, if a condition is not integrable, it may be difficult or impossible to find a solution.

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