Integral of non-constant acceleration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the horizontal distance a stone falls from a high tower, considering the tangential component of gravity. The initial approach involves using the constant acceleration formula with a derived acceleration in the x direction based on the angular velocity of the Earth. Participants express confusion over the problem's parameters, such as the height of the tower and the definition of the "tangential component of gravity." They suggest that the problem may relate to Coriolis effects, but some argue that the height is not necessary for the calculation. Ultimately, the consensus is that the problem is complex and requires clearer definitions and parameters for accurate resolution.
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Homework Statement


A stone falls from a high tower. what is the distance, in the x direction, parallel to the ground, that the stone reaches, caused only by the x component, the tangential component, of the gravity, after t seconds of free fall.

Homework Equations


The constant acceleration formula:
x=\frac{1}{2}a\cdot t^2

The Attempt at a Solution


According to the drawing attached, the acceleration in the x direction is:
a=g\cdot\sin\theta=g\sin(\omega t)
Where ω is the angular velocity of the earth.
I insert this a into the constant acceleration formula, since i don't know anything else, and, maybe, in short intervals of time the acceleration is approximately constant.
So, i get:
dx=\frac{1}{2}g\sin(\omega dt)\cdot dt^2
And:
x=\frac{g}{2}\int_{0}^{4} \sin(\omega t)\cdot t^2
Is this approach correct? since, numerically, the results aren't.
 

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Karol said:

Homework Statement


A stone falls from a high tower. what is the distance, in the x direction, parallel to the ground, that the stone reaches, caused only by the x component, the tangential component, of the gravity, after t seconds of free fall.

Homework Equations


The constant acceleration formula:x=\frac{1}{2}a\cdot t^2

The Attempt at a Solution


According to the drawing attached, the acceleration in the x direction is:
a=g\cdot\sin\theta=g\sin(\omega t)<br />Where ω is the angular velocity of the earth.
I insert this a into the constant acceleration formula, since i don't know anything else, and, maybe, in short intervals of time the acceleration is approximately constant.
So, i get:
dx=\frac{1}{2}g\sin(\omega dt)\cdot dt^2And:
x=\frac{g}{2}\int_{0}^{4} \sin(\omega t)\cdot t^2<br />Is this approach correct? since, numerically, the results aren't.
Since the numerical result isn't correct, I doubt that the approach is correct either.


Kind of a strange problem.

I guess that the tower is so high that stone doesn't land at a point directly below the position it was dropped from.

It also looks like you were to to assume that the tower is short enough to consider g to be a constant value.


What class is this for?
 
Yes, weird. Looks like a Coriolis problem except the latitude is not given, nor the tower height.
 
I agree, strange question. What is 'tangential component of gravity', unless caused by a gravitational anomaly? What does the diagram represent? Perhaps theta therein is supposed to be pi/2 - latitude, but the rest of the picture still doesn't make sense, and as Rude man says you still need the tower height. (I get ωht sin(θ), where h is the tower height and ω = 2π/24hours.)

Edit: What rubbish, haruspex :blushing:. The tower height is not needed. My h above should be the vertical distance fallen in time t, so it reduces to ωgt3 sin(θ)/2 = 2.3 cm at the equator.
But I don't see that you need any of that fancy non-inertial frame calculation - at a distance h below the release point, the tangential velocity difference between the stone and the tower is ωh sin(θ), and that is constant, so the horizontal separation is ωht sin(θ).
 
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