Integral with trig substitution

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The problem involves integrating the function x²/(x⁴ + 6x² + 9) using trigonometric substitution. Participants are exploring the appropriate substitutions and transformations needed to simplify the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using partial fraction decomposition and trigonometric substitution, specifically suggesting x = √3 tan(θ) as a substitution. There are questions about how to correctly set up the integral after substitution and concerns about algebraic manipulations leading to confusion.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing dialogue about the correctness of algebraic steps and transformations. Some participants provide guidance on using LaTeX for clarity, while others emphasize the importance of showing work to identify mistakes. Multiple interpretations of the integral setup are being explored, and there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the integral involves expressions that may not simplify easily, and there are reminders to consider differential factors in substitutions. The discussion reflects a range of algebraic errors and corrections, indicating a learning process in progress.

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Homework Statement



Using trig substitution integrate x2/(x4+6x2+9)

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I'm almost completely positive I need to use partial fraction decomposition... doing this I end up having the integral of 1/(x2+3)-3/(x2+3)2

There aren't any square roots in that, so I don't understand how to set up my trig substitution.
 
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Use the substitution

x = \sqrt{3} \tan \theta
 
You want to write the sum x^2+3 as a single term. How about x=sqrt(3)*tan(t)?
 
Ok working that out I get sqrt3sec2(t)/(sqrt3sec(t)) - 3sqrt3sec2(t)/3sec2(t)...


so by this it seems I need to take the integral of sec(t)-sqrt3 dt

Does this seem correct?
 
howsockgothap said:
Ok working that out I get sqrt3sec2(t)/(sqrt3sec(t)) - 3sqrt3sec2(t)/3sec2(t)...


so by this it seems I need to take the integral of sec(t)-sqrt3 dt

Does this seem correct?

It would seem correct if I intentionally try to make a ton of algebraic mistakes. Can you show what you did to get there so that people can help you correct them?
 
Yes, follow what Dick is saying and learn some Latex so that equations are readable . Its very easy to master
 
My main message is that the content is wrong. The main problem is that you didn't show how you got there, so what you are doing wrong is anyones guess. isaacNewton is right, that latex would make it easier to read. But it's not essential. Just show how you got there.
 
Some general advice of trig substitutions:

The use of trig subst. applies to any of the three forms:
x^2 + a^2, \quad x^2 - a^2, \quad a^2 - x^2
where you need to convert this to a single factor.

The applicable identities are the various forms of the Pythagorean identity:
\cos^2(t) + \sin^2(t) = 1\leftrightarrow 1 - \sin^2(t)=\cos^2(t)

\frac{\cos^2(t) + \sin^2(t) = 1}{\cos^2(t)}\to 1 + \tan^2(t) = \sec^2(t) \leftrightarrow \sec^2(t) - 1 = \tan^2(t)

and similarly dividing by sine squared but this gives identities with no further utility than what we have already.

One applies the appropriate substitution:
x^2 + a^2 \to x = a \tan(t)
x^2 - a^2, \to x = a \sec(t)
a^2 - x^2 \to x = a \sin(t)

and this gives a single term instead of a sum of two squared terms... which may or may not be useful in integration but typically gives a useful path to the appropriate anti-derivative. It is not always the case that one is resolving a radical and one can usually carry out an equivalent non-trigonometric algebraic manipulation to accomplish the same task. However such alternatives typically require a great deal of insight, luck, and/or experience while the trig substitutions allow for systematic attack.

You may, for example carry out the appropriate trig substitution prior to partial fraction decomposition, and indeed it may even save you some work later. Partial fraction decomposition of trig-substitutable expressions have parallel trig identities which may be applied but needn't be if the original integrand is simpler.

Finally don't forget those differential factors in the substitution, you wish to integrate: \frac{x^2}{x^4+6x^2+9} dx
not just
\frac{x^2}{x^4+6x^2+9}
 
If x = sqrt3 tan(t) then dx=sqrt3 sec2(t) and x2+3=sqrt3 sec(t)

I plugged that into 1/(x2+3)dx -3/(x2+3)2dx

so: (sqrt3 sec2(t))/(sqrt3 sec(t)) dt - 3sqrt3sec2(t)/3sec2(t)

I canceled out everything I could to get sec(t)-sqrt3 dt...


which is wrong, obviously. I guess that should instead be that sqrt(x2+3)=sqrt3 sec(t)
 
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one of the mistakes found...in the first line, it should be

dx= \sqrt{3} \sec^2(t) \,\, dt
 
  • #11
howsockgothap said:
If x = sqrt3 tan(t) then dx=sqrt3 sec2(t) and x2+3=sec(t)

I plugged that into 1/(x2+3)dx -3/(x2+3)2dx

so: (sqrt3 sec2(t))/(sqrt3 sec(t)) dt - 3sqrt3sec2(t)/3sec2(t)

I canceled out everything I could to get sec(t)-sqrt3 dt

x^2+3 isn't sec(t). It's 3*sec(t)^2, isn't it? Showing what you did does help.
 
  • #12
Right, so fixing both of those mistakes I work it down to 1/sqrt3 - sqrt3/3sec2(t)

since it becomes (1/(3sec2t) - 3/(9sec4t)) sqrt3sec2tdt


and at least according to my messed up math that just leaves me with t/sqrt3 - the integral of (3/sqrt3) cos2t
 
  • #13
howsockgothap said:
Right, so fixing both of those mistakes I work it down to 1/sqrt3 - sqrt3/3sec2(t)

since it becomes (1/(3sec2t) - 3/(9sec4t)) sqrt3sec2tdtand at least according to my messed up math that just leaves me with t/sqrt3 - the integral of (3/sqrt3) cos2t

Your messed up math is getting less messed up by the minute. Now you just have to integrate cos(t)^2. And then find that expression in terms of x. If you really need to go back to x.
 
  • #14
Alright, so I use the double angle formula and the integrand becomes -sqrt3/6 (1+cos2t)

Plus of course t/sqrt3 from earlier

Then I just work that out, and I ended up with (sqrt3/6)(t+sin2t)

And if that's right, I think I've got it from there.
 
  • #15
Found a mistake in my own work already. Should be -sin2t
 
  • #16
howsockgothap said:
Alright, so I use the double angle formula and the integrand becomes -sqrt3/6 (1+cos2t)

Plus of course t/sqrt3 from earlier

Then I just work that out, and I ended up with (sqrt3/6)(t+sin2t)

And if that's right, I think I've got it from there.

I think you might be off by maybe a factor of 2 and a sign. Might want to check it again. But you've got all the right ideas now, so I'm as likely to have made a mistake as you are.
 
  • #17
howsockgothap said:
Found a mistake in my own work already. Should be -sin2t

Bravo. It's just mechanics now.
 

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