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- Homework Statement
- ∫[x^2*dx/sqrt(9+x^2)]
- Relevant Equations
- sqrt(1+tan^2(a))~sqrt(a^2+U^2)
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Could you explain the highlighted part for me? Thank you very much!
If ##x = 3\tan(t)##, then ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(\tan^2(t) + 1)dt##Memo said:Homework Statement: ∫[x^2*dx/sqrt(9+x^2)]
Relevant Equations: sqrt(1+tan^2(a))~sqrt(a^2+U^2)
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Could you explain the highlighted part for me? Thank you very much!
That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.Mark44 said:The part where they have ##\frac{3dt}{\cos^2(t)}## isn't very helpful
I guess aka ##sec^2 tdt##FactChecker said:That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.
Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?FactChecker said:That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.
I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe they wanted to keep the required background to just derivative of sin, cos, and the quotient rule.Mark44 said:Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?
The derivative of ##tan(x)## is ##\frac1{cos^2(x)}=sec^2(x)##.Mark44 said:Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?
Yes, I realize that. My point was in explaining why ##x = 3\tan(t)## implies that ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.martinbn said:The derivative of ##tan(x)## is ##\frac1{cos^2(x)}=sec^2(x)##.
What was problem with the explanation ##dx = \frac{3dt}{cos^2(t)} = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.Mark44 said:Yes, I realize that. My point was in explaining why ##x = 3\tan(t)## implies that ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
Assuming someone knows the derivatives of all six circular trig functions, why would someone write ##\frac{d\tan(t)}{dt}## as ##\frac 1 {\cos^2(t)}## and not just go directly to ##\sec^2(t)##?martinbn said:What was problem with the explanation ##dx = \frac{3dt}{cos^2(t)} = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
Where I come from ##sec## and ##csc## are not used at all. For someone like me the derivative of tangent is one over cosine squared.Mark44 said:Assuming someone knows the derivatives of all six circular trig functions, why would someone write ##\frac{d\tan(t)}{dt}## as ##\frac 1 {\cos^2(t)}## and not just go directly to ##\sec^2(t)##?
I'm not saying what was written was incorrect, just that it was more complicated than was necessary.
I have taught college-level mathematics for 20+ years. Every calculus textbook I've ever seen presents all six circular trig functions as well as their derivatives.martinbn said:Where I come from ##sec## and ##csc## are not used at all. For someone like me the derivative of tangent is one over cosine squared.
Yes, and when I went to the US and thought calculus, I learned the notations for ##\frac1{\cos(x)}## and ##\frac1{\sin(x)}##. But where I grew up there were no such functions.Mark44 said:I have taught college-level mathematics for 20+ years. Every calculus textbook I've ever seen presents all six circular trig functions as well as their derivatives.
Trig substitution is typically used when the integral involves a square root of a quadratic expression, or when the integral involves a sum or difference of squares. Look for patterns that match the trigonometric identities to determine when trig substitution is appropriate.
The most common trigonometric identities used for trig substitution are: sin^2(x) + cos^2(x) = 1, sec^2(x) - tan^2(x) = 1, and 1 + tan^2(x) = sec^2(x). These identities will help you simplify the integral and make it easier to solve.
When choosing the trigonometric function for substitution, consider the form of the integral and the terms involved. For example, if there is a square root of a quadratic expression, consider using secant or tangent substitution. Match the form of the integral with the appropriate trigonometric function.
After substituting with trigonometric functions, simplify the integral using trigonometric identities and algebraic manipulation. Try to express the integral in terms of a single trigonometric function, and then use trigonometric identities to simplify further. Finally, integrate the simplified expression to find the solution.
Practice is key to becoming efficient at solving integrals using trig substitution. Familiarize yourself with common trigonometric identities and their applications in integration. Additionally, try to recognize patterns in integrals that signal the use of trig substitution, and approach each integral methodically to simplify and solve it effectively.