Integration- is it possible to integrate this?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the integral of the function x over the expression ((1+x)^(1/2) - (1+x)^(1/3)) with respect to dx. The subject area pertains to integration techniques, specifically substitution methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various substitution methods, including u = (1+x)^(5/6) and u = (1+x)^(1/6). There are questions about the effectiveness of these substitutions and attempts to simplify the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different substitution strategies and simplifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative substitutions and simplifications, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about their chosen substitutions and the complexity of the resulting integrals. There is a sense of trial and error in finding a suitable method for integration.

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Homework Statement


Find the integral of x over ((1+x)1/2-(1+x)1/3) dx


Homework Equations



integration by substitution.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried the substitution u = (1+x)5/6 but not really sure if this makes it any better!
du/dx = 5/6 * (1+x)-1/6

6/5 * du = (1+x)-1/6 dx

(1+x) = u6/5

x= u6/5 - 1

Take a factor of (1+x)1/6 of the denominator and rewrite to give:

6/5 * integral of (u6/5 - 1)/(u2/5 - u1/5) du

Is is possible to integrate this? Or do I need a completely different substitution?
Thanks.
 
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Zoe-b said:
I have tried the substitution u = (1+x)5/6 but not really sure if this makes it any better!
What made you pick that??

Try the much simpler u=(1+x)1/6 (alternatively, u6=1+x).
 
Hmmn I was trying to get something so that the integral du/dx was a factor. I thought I'd already tried and failed with (1+x)^1/6 but will try again! Thanks.
 
Ok soo here goes:
u = (1+x)1/6

du/dx = 1/6 * (1+x)-5/6

6du = (1+x)-5/6 dx

u6 = (1+x)

x = u6 -1

So integral of x over (1+x)-5/6 * ((1+x)-1/3 - (1+x)-1/2)dx

Subst for u to give:
6 * integral of (u6 - 1) / (u-2 - u-3) du

= 6 * integral of (u9 - u3) / (u - 1) du


From here I made a second substitution of z = u - 1 (du = dz) which gives
6 * integral of ((z+1)9 - (z+1)3) / z dz


Using binomial theorem I get:

(2/3 * z9) + (27/4 * z8) + (216/7 * z7) + 84z6 + (756/5 * z5) + 189z4 + 166z3 + 99z2 + 36z


where z = ((1+x)1/6 -1)

Not exactly the neatest answer =/
 
Rather than making another substitution, why don't you just simplify (u9-u3)/(u-1)?

Hint: What is (u6-1)/(u-1)?
 
Yep I'm being very slow! Thanks should be able to finish now. Thought that answer looked ridiculously long.
 

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