Intense Logarithmic Diferentiation Question

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The discussion revolves around a calculus problem involving the differentiation of a projectile's range formula, specifically focusing on maximizing the range with respect to the launch angle. The formula provided is R = (v^2 / g)(sin2x), where v is the initial speed and g is the acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use logarithmic differentiation to isolate variables and differentiate the range equation. Some participants suggest that logarithmic differentiation may not be necessary and recommend using the chain rule instead. There is also discussion about the derivative of sin(2x) and the implications of treating constants during differentiation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods of differentiation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the chain rule and the nature of constants in the differentiation process. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or the resulting angle for maximum range.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to maximize the range and the use of specific differentiation techniques as instructed in their coursework.

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Homework Statement


Hey guys, this is my first post and of course first question to ask of calculus



Alright well I had this test and we had this very difficult question that I could not solve, it was in the hardest section.



The question is as follows:

A projectile thrown over level ground, at an angle x to the ground, has a range R given by R = (v^2 / g)(sin2x), where v is the initial speed, in meters per second, and g = 9.8m/s^2. Determine the angle of proection x for which the range is maximum.


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So I began to isolate for v^2 and then use log differentiation.



R(g) = v^2(sin2x)

v^2 = Rg / sin2x

The Attempt at a Solution




R = (v^2 / g)(sin2x)

R = ((v^2)(sin2x) / g)

ln R = ln v^2 + ln Sin2x - ln g

dR / dx = [(1 / v^2) + (1 / sin2x) - (1 / g)] (v^2(sinx) / g)



So I am pretty sure that derrivative is right but as of this i am clueless on what to do. Any help is really appreciated, even a guideline so I could figure out the rest myself. Thanks.
 
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Welcome to the forums, vexon. You are making this problem much harder than it is. You don't need to take a log. And your differentiation is not correct. You have to use the chain rule. You just want to find dR/dx and set it equal to 0. What is the derivative of sin(2x)?
 
the derivative of sin2x is cos2x(2) = 2cos2x
but we were informed that log differentiation ln was to be used ?
But I'm still stuck. Could you help me further
 
oh i think i see it,
so since v and g are constants you don't differentiate them
therefore,

dR/dx = (v^2/g)(2cos2x)
and then
0 = v^2/g(2cos2x)
so in order to make the equation equal 0 the angle has to be 30 degrees is that correct ?
would this be the right answer?
 
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The only thing that could be zero is cos(2x). And I don't think that happens at 30 degrees.
 

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