Intensity in double slit interference

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The discussion centers on the confusion regarding the calculation of intensity in double slit interference, specifically the differing expressions for intensity derived from the electric field. Two methods yield different intensity formulas: one suggests intensity is proportional to E², resulting in I = 4I₀cos²(kδ/2), while the other proposes I = 2I₀cos²(kδ/2). Participants clarify that both expressions can be valid depending on how the electric field is defined, particularly regarding time averaging. The key point is the need for consistency in defining the intensity in relation to the electric field amplitude. Overall, the thread highlights the nuances in deriving intensity from electric field calculations in interference patterns.
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I'm a little confused about a small detail when finding the intensity over the screen, as some notes I'm using happen to calculate the same thing twice, with a slight difference the second time.

Each method does the following
Call the electric field at any point E so we have
E=E0ei(kx1-wt)+E0ei(kx2-wt) with x1,x2 the paths from each of the two slits to a point on the screen.
Write each path in terms of a common path x starting midway between the slits, so x1 and x2 both have a path length difference of δ/2 relative to x. Let x1 be the shorter path.
Then x1=x-δ/2 and x2=x+δ/2, and
E=E0ei(kx-kδ/2-wt)+Eoei(kx+kδ/2-wt).
Factoring out the common terms gives
E=E0ei(kx-wt)[2cos(kδ/2)].

This is where this issue is. First it says that the intensity is proportional to E*E whilst later it says it is proportional to E*E/2.

This would give either
4E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=4I0cos2(kδ/2), or
2E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=2I0cos2(kδ/2).
Now the first of these is the expression I always see, so must be right.

I'm a little confused by this. I feel like I might be missing something with regards to time averaging the time varying term as in the E*E/2 method. Can somebody clear this up, thanks :)
 
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physiks said:
Factoring out the common terms gives
E=E0ei(kx-wt)[2cos(kδ/2)].

This is where this issue is. First it says that the intensity is proportional to E*E whilst later it says it is proportional to E*E/2.

The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=4cos2(δ/2) I0.

ehild
 
ehild said:
The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=4cos2(δ/2) I0.

ehild

Why not:

The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=0.5K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=0.5[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=2cos2(δ/2) I0.
 
physiks said:
Why not:

The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=0.5K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=0.5[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=2cos2(δ/2) I0.

In that case, I0=0.5K E02. Be consistent.

ehild
 
physiks said:
This is where this issue is. First it says that the intensity is proportional to E*E whilst later it says it is proportional to E*E/2.

This would give either
4E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=4I0cos2(kδ/2), or
2E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=2I0cos2(kδ/2).
Now the first of these is the expression I always see, so must be right.
In the second line, you replaced ##E_0^2## by ##I_0##, but it should be ##2(E_0^2/2) = 2 I_0##.
 
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