Inverting Op Amp Homework - Solve V(output) Equation

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The discussion focuses on solving the output voltage equation for an inverting op-amp circuit. The initial equation V(output) = V(input)(R2/R1) is deemed valid only without considering additional components like R3 and R4. The user attempts to modify the equation but encounters errors, seeking guidance on correctly determining the voltage at the inverting input. It is suggested to apply Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) at the junction of R2, R3, and R4 to relate the node voltage to the input voltage. The conversation emphasizes understanding ideal op-amp assumptions and the current flow in the circuit for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



V(output) = V(input)(R2/R1)

The Attempt at a Solution


The equation above is valid if the back part of the upper circuit (involving R3,R4 and the Earth wire) does not exist. I tried to improvise with it by using the equation V(output) = V(input)(R2+1/(1/R3+1/R4))/R1 however the answer is wrong. Just need some guidance as to what I am doing wrong.
 
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Can you get the voltage at the inverting (-) input of the opamp?
 
That would be Vi/30 000= 3/30000 = 0.0001

edit: Oh wait, that's the current. Sorry.
 
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Good, that's correct. So what is the voltage then?
 
If you assume the things that you need to about ideal op-amps, then you basically just have a simple circuit to solve with one voltage source and a few resistors. I find it helpful to apply KCL at the node where R2, R4, and R3 all join. You can relate the voltage at this node to the input voltage, because you know what the voltage at the inverting input must be.
 
You have 100 uA flowing into the junction of R1, R2 and the op amp - terminal. Where is that current flowing to from there?
 
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