Is a fuel cell technically an energy storage device?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether a fuel cell can be classified as an energy storage device. Participants explore the nature of fuel cells, their operational requirements, and their role within energy systems, including comparisons to batteries and electric vehicles.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that fuel cells do not store energy like batteries, as they require a constant supply of fuel and oxygen to operate.
  • Others suggest that fuel cells could be part of an energy storage system, but do not function as energy storage devices on their own.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of regenerative fuel cells, which could potentially store energy if designed appropriately.
  • Another participant emphasizes that a fuel cell converts chemical energy to electrical energy and is distinct from generators, which convert mechanical energy.
  • There is a discussion about whether fuel cell cars can be classified as electric cars, with some arguing that the defining factor is the use of an electric motor.
  • Concerns are raised about the distinction between fuel cells and auxiliary tanks, with a participant questioning the logic of storing hydrogen without a tank.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether fuel cells should be classified as energy storage devices. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the definitions and roles of fuel cells in energy systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of energy storage and the operational characteristics of fuel cells, as well as the implications for classifying fuel cell vehicles.

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I've heard fuel cells being called energy storage devices. However, unlike batteries, they only convert energy. They don't store anything unless you consider the brief moment of converting chemical energy to electrical energy storage time? Are there fuel cell types that store let's say hydrogen without the need of an auxiliary tank?

Another thing, is a fuel cell car technically an electric car? I mean, much like a battery, a fuel cell provides a current to run an electric motor...
 
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I personally would not classify a fuel cell as an energy storage device, because unlike a battery it requires a constant outside source of fuel and oxygen to operate. A fuel cell can be one component of an energy storage device, but is not in and of itself in my opinion. As to your other question, the consensus I see is that a fuel cell car is considered by most definitions an electric car. The main point seems to be what is driving the wheels--if it's an electric motor then it's an electric car. This sort of comes down to symantics, however--is a Chevy Volt an electric car when running on its gas engine? Since the engine runs a generator to run the electric motor propulsion system, then the answer is yes by the above definition. This as opposed to a Prius, which if memory serves allows a direct mechanical connection between the gas engine and the wheels and so is called a hybrid. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that...
 
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A fuel cell converts chemical energy from fuel into electrical energy. It is its own type of device. I was going to call it a generator until I looked up what a generator was and realized it converts mechanical energy into electrical energy, which is not what a fuel cell does. Calling a fuel cell an energy storage device is as incorrect as calling a generator an energy storing device.
 
A fuel cell is one piece of an energy system. It, itself is not storing energy, but the overall system of hydrogen fuel cell energy does. The other components include a tank, a hydrogen generator and either a fossil fuel or electric power plant.
 
Ryuk1990 said:
Are there fuel cell types that store let's say hydrogen without the need of an auxiliary tank?
That doesn't make sense. Fuel cells and tanks are two different things. Consider this: a gas stove may or my not utilize a local tank.
 

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