Is Coulomb's Law the Correct Equation for This Calculation?

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The discussion revolves around using Coulomb's Law to calculate the force of repulsion between two individuals with a slight excess of electrons. Participants clarify that the initial attempt at the calculation was flawed due to incorrect assumptions about the number of electrons and the distance between the individuals. Suggestions include estimating the total number of atoms in an average human body to derive a more accurate charge value. After refining the calculations with appropriate values, one participant arrives at a force estimate of approximately 1.03 x 10^25, aligning more closely with the expected result. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate charge and distance values in applying Coulomb's Law effectively.
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Homework Statement


Nobel laureate Richard Feynman once said that if 2 persons stood at arm's length from each other and each person had 1% more electrons than protons, the force of repulsion between them would be enough to lift a "weight" equal to that of the entire Earth. Carry out an order-of-magnitude calculation to substantiate this assertion.


Homework Equations


F = k |q1||q2| / r2


The Attempt at a Solution


I had no idea to do this so i used Coulombs law with q1 = q1 = -e
I used -e because it said there's 1% more electrons so if there's 100 protons, there's 101 electroons and 100 of the electrons would cancel out the protons so the net charge is 1 electron (e). but then It didnt said anything about r so i just guessed and used r = 2 m and then again with r = 1.5m but i got an answer that was x 10^-28 and the answer is supposed to be ~1025

Am I even using the right equation??
 
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you're using the right equation, but you need to make a better guess on how many electrons each person will have - how much charge to use.

Try to find how many atoms or protons are in the average human body. Then use a charge equal to 1% of that value of protons. If you can only find atoms, use an educated guess as to how many protons a body has from that number of atoms.

googled for you:

"A 70 kg body would have approximately 7*1027 atoms. That is, 7 followed by 27 zeros:

7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000"

source: http://education.jlab.org/qa/mathatom_04.html (not too reputable but who cares. see if it gives you an appropriate answer)

So for you rcharge, use .01 * 7 * 1027 electrons

also, i measured my arm just now

with hand: ~85 cm
without hand: ~55cm

your distance is way too high

lol 2m = ~6ft. your arm is as tall as a person? :D
 
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Yeah okay I was thinking about that and that makes sense.

And yeah I misunderstood the question. I thought they meant each person was an arms length away so the total distance between them was 2 arms lengths so i used 2(0.75) and 2(1.0)

With that info, I got 6.10 x 10^61. Which is way too high
 
Did you convert the charge units into Coulombs?
 
Yeah that's where the problem was.

If I use # of electrons = 1.8 x 10^28, then take 1% of that, then multiply that by 1.602 x 10^-19 to convert to Coulombs, square that value, multiply by k, divide by r^2 (r = .85 m) and i get 1.03 x 10^25Thanks!
 
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